Except it doesn’t require everyone to participate and it also can’t really be done by small groups of players.
For example I’m on a high pop server with active raiders, we had our gate open last tuesday and I never had to do a single turn in or even care about them. But then you have people like the OP that just won’t be able to get into AQ and there’s little that can be done about it aside from waiting for the blizzard kick ins to auto open the gates, but that kind of time gated garbage is why i dislike retail.
I would trade the dog**** that is Skeram for a normal server any day. PvP server that has less PvP than a PvE server filled with people who report for griefing if their world buffs get dispelled. Trust me having AQ a week earlier is not worth it.
Fascinating… these people supposedly hate retail yet they spend all day waiting for BORROWED POWER
I don’t recall placing blame on anyone in particular (I’ll say it again for the umpteenth time). I turned in what I had saved up but I don’t really have the time to actively farm all day in the current. I’m not complaining that people that aren’t me should farm faster, my complaint is that the speed at which the gates open is so far out of my control in addition to the fact that it just results in me needing to arbitrarily wait so much longer to access content other people who maybe even turned in less than I did get access to because they picked “the right server”.
This “go farm it yourself” cop-out is getting old. Like, I already made it pretty clear that I can’t, and I put no blame on anyone other than the design of the event as a whole.
On every server that does not have the war effort complete, the blame lies squarely on the community on those servers. Some communities rallied together, planned, and prepared. Others? “You were not prepared.” The information was there. If the war effort isn’t complete, it is on your community, not the event design.
actually a great deal, my realm’s war effort was moving very slowly too, but i was able to advocate and politic in favor to donating to the war effort. it actually made a huge difference and was essential for my realm to get their stuff together and now we’re expecting the gates to open sometime this week.
Pretty sure you didn’t read the question properly, lol.
I’m not sure how you would ascertain that I “suck” simply because I’m sad that our war effort is moving slowly.
I’m also not sure why you are judging the value of my character based on how much time I have available (not much) to “farm it myself”, especially when I’m not placing any blame on anyone for not farming enough.
Lotta trolls on this forum who are just dying for their killer one-liner these days, huh lol.
Get involved. There are chat channels, server discords, your own guild, and the guilds your guild knows. Work with people communicate, network. The ‘community’ aspect is what people praised about Vanilla back in the day, and what they wanted to bring back for Classic. Well ‘community’ takes work. It doesn’t just happen.
Handful of people can change the fate of gorram NATIONS! They sure as hell can change a community on a game server.
You don’t control who rolls on your realm. You do control whether you go out, make an effort, and actually work to forge those people into an actual community, instead of a bunch of people that happen to be on the same server.
I appreciate your fire, but some of us do have responsibilities in life that prevent us from being a ringleader to round up and seduce thousands of other people they don’t know in an online game to complete this task.
About all the time I have is to donate what I pick up in my consumable farming sessions, raid, and that’s it.
I’m pretty sure I lack any and all capability to magically create the change that you’re implying is possible with one motivated individual, especially if there’s a coalition of people purposefully holding off turn-ins, like has been mentioned on my particular realm.
Actually it’s on both. Some communities opened the gates first thing last week, some didn’t. And it’s false to assume all communities are as interested in getting the gates open or will be equally open to someone trying to organize them to do so.
I’m on a realm that had the gates open last week, I contributed exactly nothing to the war effort or anyone doing the quest lines but am now raiding AQ. And I can fully understand the OP’s frustration with not being on a realm where others don’t care very much but actually wanting to do AQ.
Well, that’s kind of the bad part about community. Sometimes what they want and what you want aren’t in alignment. The OP could simply transfer to a server with the gates open, but then he’d have to leave his friends/guild. It sucks for the OP, but the design of the game is not at fault here. Things like this are what make Classic special IMO. That feeling of everybody working together for a common goal. That’s special to me.
With that said, I can see why they never did this again.
It depends on you perspective i suppose. From and RP perspective, it’s probably one of the best things ever done in the game. An event that take participation from basically everybody in the “world” is just awesome.
From a game play perspective, yeah, I can see the flaw. You’re essentially being time gated based on the actions (or inaction) of other people.
What do you think they could have done differently and still kept that same feeling?
I guess that works, but it definitely loses some “epicness”.
Edit:
I hate to be the old man here, but this feel like a modern gamer rejection of old school MMO values. And, you have to remember, that’s what Classic is at the end of the day, and old school MMO. These games used to be marketed as “virtual worlds”, so a world wide event that needed everybody was effing awesome back in 2005.
It didn’t need everyone back in 2005 either though. Just like now plenty of people got into AQ without contributing anything to the war effort or quest line.
I think it’s a nifty idea on paper that just didn’t work out well in practice, like the vanilla honor system.