Implement Downvoting

[Everybody hated that.]

Only if you can see all the votes, not just a flat plus X or minus X count.

Downvotes shouldn’t remove positive hearts and vice-versa.

Most of the reason people “abused” downvotes was to hide that a suggestion actually had a lot of support.

But a post with 200 likes and 210 dislikes is not the same as a post with 0 likes and 10 dislikes. This is should be very, very obvious.

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Yes, I believe it should be the way you say.

Fair enough, it was nice talking with you.

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Blizzard’s own forum was designed specifically to grey out/hide posts that got X number of downvotes.

That wasn’t the downvoter’s fault.

Now instead of downvotes, people are inappropriately using flags to operate as downvotes, and guess what?

Enough flags will also grey out/hide a post.

Brilliant fix.

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They weren’t before, before if someone disliked a post they just hit the downvote button, now you have people using the report button as a replacement for the downvote. They’re wrong to do that of course but i maintain that the downvote should never have been taken away on its own, you need up and down voting for a balanced system, otherwise it’s just about trying to minimize negative feedback.

Personally i think Blizzard removed them because whenever the community was outraged about something and their regular white knights would come to their defense, they’d get downvoted into oblivion lol

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The problem is Blizz is to cheap to police their own forums and anarchy has taken over .

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This I also agree with. For consistency, either both likes and dislikes should exist, or neither should.

I feel, however, that a dislike function would reduce false flagging. And as the current report system I don’t think is going to change, I feel the best bet is to allow for dislikes.

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I have lost and regained it a twice now. I have also had pretty good luck with CS over turning forum silences against me in the past. No matter what other people tell me, I have never had an actually bad experience with their CS team.

How many times must a reply or topic be reported before the user is suspended automatically? I’m quite worried this may happen to me, at this point.

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If you do, just click the link in the email you will receive to contest it. You didn’t break any rules, you may have hurt someone’s feels but that isn’t grounds for a forum action.

In a 500 post topic how can you express that? What about a 5000?

Blizzard could have removed whatever mechanism actually “greyed-out” or “hid” a massively downvoted post. That way, the posts would have remained visible, displaying not only themselves, but the down/up votes.

However that didn’t happen and instead, Blizzard threw the baby out with the bathwater.

New forums allow massively “flagged” or “reported” posts to be “greyed-out” and “hidden.” These have come into use (really, abuse) as downvote substitutes and are producing exactly the same results.

What’s really needed is an “ignore” feature like the one we used to have.

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There used to be an ignore feature, too? Man, I missed a lot over the years.

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In the old forums, yes.

But it shouldn’t be, dislikes should be just for showing dislike, reporting can be seperate.

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I’m always shocked by the illogical posturing of people on these forums. Everyone bad mouths the liberal arts, but in a world pushing STEM degrees - and with arguments like this - we’re the only ones who have basic sense about them.

inb4 engineers going “I read just as well as you can!”

Where did this come from?

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To be fair, the flagging system wasn’t their idea and it supposed to be the report system. It’s Discourse that made it flagging. But that’s why I had started my old topic about how they should change it. Granted, that would take a bit of programming, but shouldn’t be difficult to change the name to “report” and give the options more clarity along with a warning.

Just seems Blizz doesn’t care enough to make the changes.

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To be honest if they are gonna let the inmates rule the looney bin and not check up as to the context of why things where said they should stop making the punishments so harsh.

Harsh punishments are only ok in a observed and controlled environment. Not in this forum land that’s ruled by the inmates.

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To be fair, Blizzard decided to use Discourse instead of just letting well alone, using their own original forums and dispensing with the “grey-out” mechanism.