Implement Downvoting

If you post “flying is bad for the game”.

Do you really need to read the same arguments, yet again?

Most everything to debate about has been covered infinite times.

No body is likely to change their mind based on your, mine, or anyone else’s post.

Sometimes that haooens, and nothing wrong with expressing as a community, but a simple like or dislike on most big topics covers a lot of ground already.

We already know 90% of the arguments either way in any topic.

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I’d like to add that this is based on the premise that a dislike function would necessarily deter users from posting. I am not sure that’s true. I believe what is more likely is that users would both dislike and post to articulate their disagreement.

In other words, this wouldn’t have to reduce discussion.

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You are right on those points ,but it is was used as censorship tool and that is why it was removed adding it back would not improve forums,even now without it there are so many cases of players who just don’t comprehend what they read (disclaimer: i don’t mean you are one of them) adding it back would discredit posts just by glancing on dislike /like count,and some would not even bother to read it as you said .
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In my opinion removing dislike button has improved discussions on this forums
and amount of posts (pointless ones mostly ).

One person, one vote fixes a lot.

I will agree a lot of great posters have been chased of because it was possible to carpet bomb them.I

A one person, one vote agree/disagree is fine.

What isn’t fine is the ability to carpet bomb people out, like what has happened to a few great posters. (Cindilou, Snow, Huggy for a few examples).

Good posters casting off forum baggage was that result.

The forum is now in the same position of chasing off posters once they had enough of the “you got flagged, k, appeal of you have the time or care enough” emails

I never had a problem with Downvoting, I did have a problem with Burying Post.

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This assumes the premise is true that users do not read posts that have thumbs down.

This is extremely important for such a dislike function to work properly. This also applies to the like function we have now, unfortunately.

We agree that old and new systems are flawed and need way of improvement,and on some aspects of how to improve it ,have good night.

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Absolutely. I suppose we only really disagree on whether or not we ought to or prefer having a dislike button. :slight_smile:

There are multi variables involved in the matter,so it is not just assumption but a high probability that it did happen to a certain degree,for which we don’t have data but blizzard did, and there is high chance that data head influenced removal of the the said feature.

They probably won’t do anything until everything is tied to account and not character specific (I.e. flagging on Alts to get a post locked up or hidden).

I’ll be honest, the forums are the last thing that ever get updated, we get updates every year and half. But I don’t believe we’ve had a major overhaul other then art changes per expansion.

For them to even implement this change and adding ignore feature would probably take them another year :eyes:

Personally I still prefer the legion forums with no downvoting and flags wouldn’t hide posts or lock down a thread.

Two things.

  • Take the hint, buddy.
  • Sounds like what you’re suggesting has already been implemented, and is being used to good effect.

B-b-but my fee fees!

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I take the hint that a lot of users falsely flag topics and replies and that you’re okay with that. Blizzard has disagreed with those false flags and you five times, is the hint I’m getting.

lol no way dude, I’m not ok with any of this nonsense. I only come here because it provides a fascinating insight into the human condition.

I actually think your suggestion is a good one, but the potential for abuse in this environment is probably why people are so reluctant to agree with it.

You, too, are included in the human condition. :wink:

But we agree. The state of these forums is messy. A few things need to happen for my suggestion to ever be implemented. However, as it stands, if ever implemented, disliking has the same potential for abuse as liking does. I believe the abuse would hopefully be minimal (‘one character, one vote’).

Not saying this is a replacement or better but in threads with lots of responses there is a summarize button below the first post. It appears to hit the posts with the most activity related to them but if time is an issue, it might help to get an overview before diving in. :woman_shrugging:

I like reading the posts and seeing what people think. Sometimes a poster brings up a point that I had not considered which I appreciate!

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You got virtually downvoted because you ask for a downvote option for downvoting other people’s thread…

We what need is positive reinforcement: wait, we already got the option!

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I gave you a heart. Positive reinforcement! :heart:

Me too. For me, this suggestion isn’t so I can simply glance at numbers and decide whether I want to read or move on. I suppose for others this may be the case. I suspect this is already the case, except some users’ reading-decisions are based on solely likes without a dislike or thumbs down number.

NO you are incorrect, this system is as good as mob rule if the people in power are too overworked to look into the context of what is said. The mob knows this, hopefully one day the people in power will figure it out too.

Frankly if you want to see how easy it is to get banned for nothing. Speak up vs ML, raider IO or false flagging and I garentee you your trust level will vanish before your eyes and you will have said NOTHING wrong.

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If someone simply disliking a post you make causes you that much distress… better not apply for a job, like ever… there is no way you will be able to handle the rejection of an employer telling you NO if a simple downvote causes you that much distress. And better never apply for a position of leadership… someone might actaully… disagree with something that you say… they may even do it publicly as well.

If someone is unable to handle a downvote which simply means they are expressing that they did not like the idea that you put forth, then there is no way that you are going to be able to go out there and handle actual criticism.in the real world. There actually are going to be people out there in real life who are going to dislike what you have to say. And you are not going to be able to block them when they are right next to you.

You know how I “block” people? I simply ignore them and pretend that they do not exists. I see so many people here on the forums who keep trying to bait me. When it is a decent person who has a different view, then I respond, if it is just some troll trying to insult me then I never reply back.

By the same logic that removing downvotes creates a friendly environment, shouldn’t they then also remove the upvotes on all forms and the hearts as well? becuase some people end up getting way more hearts than other people do.

By their own logic of removing the downvote, they should in that case remove upvotes as well. Some of my posts here get a lot of hearts… That might offend someone when they dont get any at all.

You can upvote a negative, evil comment as well… Now that YouTube has changed the upvote system, you can actually buy bots that will come in and put on likes to your comments and videos. You can buy 5000 video likes and 200 comment likes in the same package. And with no one ever being able to dislike that comment, it will never go down or away.

Gamers now use that as well. A streamer can simply say like my content. What if 90% of the people hate I though? But it ends up getting 50 likes when all the others ended up hating it and with comments disabled, it will give the illusion that 100% of everyone liked the content.

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