Imagine being an artist

Oh go eat a horse apple. Never even spoke to you before you started being a pompous clown in your reply to me.

Frottera. Get your facts straight. Blizzard has ever employed commission artists both for stills and 3d work. Blizzard is a very strong supporter of artists of many disciplines and your statement is false. You just have trouble admitting it.

There are exceptions to every rule, so if any artist was commissioned specifically for the Sprite Darter set please provide the information, because that would actually be relevant to the conversation.

Provide the receipts. Or get over yourself. Either one is fine.

Except no one is complaining about the artistic design at all… Not a single person that I have seen is complaining how it looks, they are complaining how it’s acquired.

The Artists in WoW get the most praise out of anyone else in the Dev Team. Seriously, you almost never see posts complaining about the visuals… er, except from those people who think WoW should run off the crisis engine or unreal 5 or whatever. You know, the group that things the game should have hyper realistic graphics that only the top 5-10% of PC owners could handle?

But seriously, the Art Team always knocks it out of the park and never gets any legit criticism because they do such a great job.

It’s not the artists that are being targeted, it’s the people selling the work of these artists which people are taking issue with in all these threads about the transmog.

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Artist working on stuff like gear . You know armor , weapons ecetera are not contracted employees they are salaried employees . People who do the art work for say load screen might be contracted employees .

This thread is about the artist that do the gear type art work .

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You have NO CLUE what you are talking about.

None. Just leave it at that. Name calling, passive aggression, it’s just proving how toxic a person you are, while being unwilling to accept you are emphatically wrong. Dunning kruegers at it’s finest here.

For all you know, a Ui designer at Sony could have created the T2 armour sets on commission. I may know the facts and you do not, you have to accept that.

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Lol dude you haven’t provided any facts whatsoever :rofl: you’ve just spouted hearsay the whole time. Link one legit article that shows wow 3d artists aren’t paid a wage. Provide one saying this set was made by an independent artist.

You can’t. The reality is this set was blizzard employees making stuff for a cash shop when we’ve been asking for class sets forever instead of 4 sets for an entire tier.

I totally agree and as a member of the LGBTQ+ community i support our local artist and allies! Like visiting the major city i live in and seeing artist sell their craft is amazing i remember on a cool Sunday morning my wife and her boyfriend pointed our an amazing piece and it reminded me so much of the art that artist put into wow and that feeling that washed over me was worth the money we paid for the piece and its a lifetime of memories. I think it is the same with store mounts and transmog like I wanna look like a fairy sometimes.

Imo this whole play was because they’re about to delay Shadowlands until next year and they want to try and lock in subs until then to avoid missing rev goals.

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Exactly, why pay for a sub?

Its fine if you get as an incentive to purchase a sub but selling it, that is a different story.

Gross. please stop doing this.

Ugliest garbage I’ve seen in a long while.

Dear god that is ugly.

Clown suits ain’t it.

This looks like complete trash.

This transmog look bad even to a 2007’ mmo. Stop doing this, please.

A turd with sparkles is still a turd… got to be one of the worst looking things blizzard has produced.

Charging for something that looks this bad?

I don’t even want this in my wardrobe thats how pitifully ugly it is.

Now that’s what I call an ugly, uninspired cash-grab!

Did the art team make this set as ugly as possible on purpose, or…?

This is probably the worse looking paid cosmetic set I have ever seen in an MMO.

Ugly garbage

That’s so ugly.

You couldn’t pay me to wear that ugly old thing.

This tmog is bombing fierce. It is straight garbage.

Ugly AF.

Should I keep going? It’s clear that some people are mad that they have to pay for it, but it’s not a reason to be so vile. My point is artists spent time designing this, and every time any item gets put on the store, it’s met with nothing but toxicity. People are not this toxic when DLC gets released for other games, but for some reason, WoW is fair game. I’m just tired of it.

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So now we are telling ourselves that a greedy company charging money for each little cosmetic that used to be available with the base subscription for over a decade is “supporting the artists?”

So I guess the fact that how much the actual artists get paid hasn’t changed doesn’t factor into this, huh?

Lowering quality to ratchet up cost while laying off hundreds of artists (and other employees) to further enrich the greed of a handful of predatory money-addicted vampire investors and board lords does NOT equate to “support the artists.”

No matter how you spin it, paying more for less is exactly what it sounds like.

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Actually, Gortys is wrong there. Project budgets decide pay. When a game is budgeted, it includes staff salaries for the duration of their work on said project. Which is why delays are so costly and game companies prefer to not do them, because you have to ask for more money and push additional projects that those staff members may have had to work on further down the pipeline.

Not remotely true. I’ve covered this multiple times, but cash shop items are side projects that are not part of the overall game budget. And yes, that game budget also covers post-release patch content/ongoing support. These things are planned long in advance (Blizzard starts work on expansions early, they’re already working on the expansion after Shadowlands as we post here) so artists were already working on the sets for 8.3 before 8.2 dropped. A change like adding class sets would need to be made prior to 8.1 launching, which would not have been possible.

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I haven’t personally encountered that (as in, I haven’t seen a difference in pay per project) but it’s completely possible. Either way, budgets are not per department for them to come up with their own projects, unlike what they think, lol.

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Never said it was, what I am doing is contesting a person that declares all the Art done by Blizzard is not done via commissioned works. Toxic as he was, I’m sure you white knighting such a person doesn’t fare well for you either. If you’ve been asking for stuff forever and not getting a response, what does that tell you?

I wonder why the OP has no answer to this.

Apparently he/she doesn’t care when the overwhelming WoW player majority praises the Art and Sound peeps for the expansion while criticizing the devs?

It only matters…only because reasons?

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I’m not debating the fact that people praise the art department in other situations, I’m just saying that people are extremely vile and toxic every time an item gets added to the store. Some people want to pretend that professional artists don’t care about criticism, but honestly, after spending days on a piece, it’s always nice to see how people like it, except it’s impossible to get any positive feedback from store items without going through 90% disgusting comments.

As an Artist myself I feel like Artists that work for Blizzard, does things for the Blizzard Store etc vs an Artist that takes commissions on their own are two different things. One of them probably don’t get paid enough for what they do and run on passion to do it.

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You don’t seem to understand what the people are angry about.

Allow me to elaborate:

You think the artists are feeling bad because people are criticizing Blizzard’s decision to put a transmog on the cash shop.

Why do you think artists feel bad? Are you saying they are the decision makers at Blizzard choosing to put this on the cash shop?

And you are completely wrong in thinking that people are criticizing the artists for Blizzard’s decision to put something on the cash shop.

I think you’re very confused and you need to stop mixing Blizzard’s decision makers with the actual artist.

EDIT: In case this wasn’t clear here’s another attempt:

People love the transmog. They hate it’s on the cash shop. The artists’ work IS BEING APPRECIATED

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Scroll up to my response to the green post. People are leaving gross comments about the set itself.