There’s a difference between complaining and whining. One is legit and the other is just annoying to everyone else.
There’s more thread about warriors wanting a buff than RDF threads now, that should be enough of an indicator that were no longer in the “just a complaint” territory.
That’s a distinction more in your head than mine. I didn’t set the precedent here, never forget that.
They weren’t considered due to historical bias, not that they’re actually tagged as PvP specs anywhere. The dev post quoted earlier again refers to them as HISTORICALLY or TRADITIONALLY pvp specs. Which has 0 meaning and given how specs that need no buffs at all get them on a whim it’s fair to expect Arms Warriors to be buffed at least to par with the other sources of their raid utility debuffs, namely Feral Druids and Combat Rogues.
Still waiting for the Shadow Priest buff too, that spec is underrepresented, painfully mid throughput wise and is also the ONLY DPS spec Priests have. If a Priest wants to DPS they have no other option but Shadow - and it’s 1 per raid and very mid.
Not setting the precedent doesn’t absolves you from adding to it.
If you see a protest that turned into a riot, it’s better to not join in just because you agreed with the protest but not the riot.
Obviously an hyperbole but you get my point, hopefully.
I’m not looking for absolution. The precedent has been set, I’m using the tools that Blizzard has decided are the best means to get balance for my class.
Don’t like it? Take it up with Blizzard.
The shear amount of trash and packs that were 6+ mobs in TBC has determined that was a lie.
DPS Warrior was ok in T4, competitive but not tearing up the meters. The situation improved in later phases with good scaling and the introduction of ArP gear.
Anecdotally, the majority of prot warriors I knew in TBC switched to Feral for T6 and beyond because prot warrior scaled poorly with gear. Paladins were really scaling very well by this point too.
Not saying you’re the one saying this, but the “you guys had your day in past xpacs” argument is really irrelevant to anyone that jumped into wrath classic as their starting point.
Well at least we now know you weren’t picked for Community Council because you play the game
Fury does not need a buff. Y’all can live without being on top for a few months.
Not only is this completely false but its irrelevant too, this is the wotlk forums, we are currently in the wotlk era. We should focus on whats happening now.
it’s absolutely relevant
blizz buffs and nerfs frequently to get ppl to reroll and increase engagement metrics
The female interns at Blizz must have played fury warrior.
Explains the constant abuse.
That’s the wonderful thing. Thanks to rebalancing I don’t have to live with it.
Warriors are bottom tier and the two previous buffs have only entrenched that fact. We’re deserving of the next buff.
No more changes, we’ve had too many already.
If buffing warrior DPS is 100% off the table due to alleged scaling, then we need utility. I’m becoming more and more of a fan of a Shattering Throw glyph. It doesn’t directly buff warrior DPS but it would be QoL for the player as well as a boon to the raid. If usable in any stance it would solidify prot warrior as the “damage focused” block tank vs prot pal (mit focused), and multiple warriors could chain the throws during bloodlust, so bringing more than one would be okay. Just make sure an instant shatter doesn’t reset the swing timer, please.
I’d take a straight dps buff mind you but as we are we need either more utility or a dps increase. And some bugfixes.
There shouldn’t be a “next buff.” No more buffs are needed.
We won’t even be close to top at any point in the expansion as it stands currently
Oh no, your spec’s very first time not being close to the top for an entire classic expansion.
If what you say is even true, you’ll still be more than viable.
Viable for one roster spot and it doesn’t even have to be Fury.
And TBC and Vanilla are irrelevant to Wrath balancing
You’re trolling right? As already stated, I’m playing the class regardless, as I have a fun time playing my Warrior. All I said, is that it’s time for something to be addressed, and that the most logical thing would be to remove the TG penalty… Or hell, make it a 5% penalty instead of 10%.