Yet when this was Rets flooding the forums that was legit - seriously you can barely contain your bias.
I’m not for a buff to Warriors or against the Ret buff but the level of Warrior hate through the community is really concerning - there’s no way we can end up with a balanced game if Blizzard are listening to you lot - you have a grade A chip on your shoulder about Warriors dominating in Vanilla.
The Fight club antics and such were immature - rise above it. Argue the claim and ignore the other stuff. If you think Warriors shouldn’t be buffed then make a numerical case for that. QQing about QQing is just naff.
Up until the feral buff, I’d have said you were crazy, but apparently we live in a WotLK where class balance changes happen now, so why the heck not? Like, I don’t really think this is necessary, someone’s gonna be at the bottom, but they’re making changes so at this point anything goes.
This isn’t an issue that warriors aren’t at the top of the meters.
Not even about warriors being top 5.
This is about being 17th on the meters.
Which, though not ideal, would be fine if warrior brought some solid utility.
Being below other classes’ pure DPS specs is one thing, but being bottom barrel and only offering some extra HP to the raid is worse than poor balance, it’s nonexistent.
Hopefully in TOGC we’re only 12th. Maybe in ICC we make it to the top 10. Top 5 with a legendary.
That would honestly be pretty cool, but maybe a little OP? It would probably need to have like a crit proc coefficient added to it, as it applying deep wounds every time its applied would probably be too strong lol.
Any such change would require testing and tuning which is something the intern tasked with handling WotLKC apparently can’t do.
Otherwise the result is a wild rollercoaster ride which many players would prefer to avoid.
You’re not wrong. Thus my preference for Blizzard not to touch class balance - especially in this tier. I just don’t trust them to do it right. And this is a very complex tier.
But as far as suggestions go that was one of the better ones.
They’ve done it twice and I guarantee they’ll do a third, then a fourth. You buff underperforming specs so that those specs come back into the fold of raiding and you keep players engaged with the content.
Not to mention Ulduar is a very hard raid even with everyone knowing the mechanics. Buffs essentially ‘nerf’ Ulduar while also providing aforementioned engagement.
Just keep talking about warriors, they can’t ignore it forever and the numbers don’t lie.
Sadly, they can and probably will ignore us. Hell we discovered tech that gave us a tiny dps increase, and they nerfed it within HOURS. I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for them to do anything for Warrior, and that’s because of two potential outcomes.
1: Our suggestions are falling on deaf ears and nothing will happen.
Or 2: That they will hear the suggestions, but make some terrible change that no one asked for, and it won’t really help in any way.
I was more focussing on that specific post I was replying to and not your overall post history. It read as incredibly biased.
At any rate, I’ve looked at your overall position on this topic and I think I generally agree with it. I just don’t think that post helped your points at all.
I honestly don’t think stereotyping Warrior players and invoking past expansions is helpful to the discussion or fair.
With that logic, warriors complaning about wanting a buff is the same as them complaining every other classes should just get deleted.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
We’ve heard you the first 100 complaint threads, at this point it’s not complaining, it’s a tantrum and it is reflected in the communities outside of these forums as well and it’s aggravating for everyone else.
I’m not stereotyping warriors. I’m pointing at the ones screaming loudly in everyone’s face. I’ve already stated that I won’t cry for the warriors throwing a tantrum and that the good warriors that aren’t being obnoxious deserves a change so they don’t have to wait all the way to ICC to be relevant in PvE.
And I think invoking past expansions when talking about how obnoxious certain warriors have been in the past that are now flinging poo all over social platforms is very relevant to the discussion.