Very true.
I just wanted to go on the record after we’ve seen the system in action.
It was also the covenant abilities.
Hoping changes are made to Necrolords. Their set is beautiful, I’d switch in a heart beat.
Yep, still waiting for them necrolords buffs. I like the feel and story-line of them, but there hasn’t been a single dungeon/raid/pvp fight I’ve been glad to be necrolord as opposed to the other covenants.
I get that. Many of my friends feel the same way.
The idea behind “identity” seems to have fallen flat on its face. The identity players want for their characters just isn’t playing out.
for real I’m just lucky that nightfea is pretty okay on all of the druid specs even if it’s not the best.
I actually really wish necro Lords was competitive for resto druid in PVE content.
I wish they just made the covenant choice purely cosmetic, and allowed you to build renown with all covenants separately but account bound. (Like… you pick one for the cosmetics.)
So you could do all the content on one toon if you wanted… and then also be able to pick the soulbind you want for each spec… and have the abilities tied to the soulbind you choose for that spec… you’d just only be able to rock the transmog for the covenant you chose.
It kinda blows my mind that they didn’t pull the ripcord. The covenant system was basically guaranteed to be a bad decision the second they attached more borrowed power to it.
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I guess if you’re a min maxing leet raider who needs that .5% boost in their deeps…
Is the game really that hard that turning into a blinking fox instead of something else is killing your performance?
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Except that you’re going to be judged for choosing the wrong covenant by any progression guild and every mythic group you try to join, sure.
I am not planning on pushing max content. More important to me as some have mentioned is the stuff you can collect from the covrnants. I understand the concept that your work with a covenant allows you access to stuff that is unique to that faction.
That said it is a bit disappointing from a collectors standpoint that my character would have to stay with a covenant to retain stuff. There is a lot cosmetically tied to each covenant.
That said this expansion is very new still at least relative to its roughly 2 year life span so hopefully as we progress through this expansion restrictions will be lifted so that I can get all the cosmetic stuff. It seems daunting having 4 leather wearers to collect the armor appearances or plate or cloth or mail etc.
This doesnt even factor in potentially new and unannounced covenants that might come later in a bigger patch.
I guess time will tell!
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I agree
#PullTheRipCord
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I hadnt read this when I made my post but at least with this system we would be able to use 1 leather class for all the cosmetic aspects at least.
It doesnt sound like the greatest approach but it sounds like a path Blizzard would take.
Of course we are all guessing at all of this and I dont think most of us have credible info of whats to come so its all speculation.
Good idea though Ill be interested to see if Blizzard does something like that.
Even the more laid back players want to bring the best they can for their guild/raid team. And the difference between covenants can be as high as 10%, not 0.5%.
And as everything has played out, the meaningful choices and identity goals of the system have flopped hard.
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It’s almost like nobody saw it coming . 
Oh wait we did 
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pulltheripcord/617401
Thread still gets responses and been running since last August
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That has the highest view/response count on the forums?
If you go to the page where all the threads are listed for replies it is # 9 for view it is # 43 it has fallen since SL released but it was one of the most active thread during the Beta testing phase.
Disagree.
Serrated Bone Spike (necrolord-rogue) is 1% to 5% of my total damage and feels like it does next to nothing.
What a strange comment.
When a choice has consequence, it is but natural to want to make the best possible choice. And what’s wrong with asking questions on topics you may not have every possible comprehension of?
If you are going to spend half a million dollars on a house, wouldn’t you try to find the one that best suits you? If I am going to make a choice that will prevent me access to the other three covenant abilities I had best make sure it’s the one I want, whatever reason I base my decision on.
This is why covenant abilities are failures. Instead of encouraging organic experimentation from players it forces your hand. Instead of allowing players to adjust it corners you into one spec, or role, or content.
I get that - that’s why I said for the most part. And I’m mainly talking about aesthetics/mechanics, not balance.