I'm done with this snoozefest

lmao that’s on you bud next time don’t blindly buy something

should have been explain in product description…like every other product description from REPUTABLE companies.

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…but you already seem to have stated that you’re not “down with that”.
Reps tied to raids are time gated.

sure… that’s the case… now.
not so much a year ago… before Water Striders “forgot” how to walk on water.

seems to be a constant theme with you.
you get backed into a corner, and resort to name-calling.

the two examples are no different.

if they were, you’d take righteous pleasure in explaining the why and how.

ah thats right i forgot Raids have a 24 hour wait between resets so nvm. Again these grinds cant seem to keep up with me.

No. You really are an idiot. Just stating a fact. Your posts are nonsensical and despite several players explaining specifically how these two things are different, you pretend not to understand, or you really don’t understand.

I’m not the one backed into a corner.

And actually I very rarely call people names. But I welcome any evidence you have to the contrary.

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I started grinding Voldunai on my Horde alt to get Vulpera and yeah, since it’s time gated it will take me approximatively 27 days to get them, 27 days on doing the same old WQs over and over again, not great…

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why dont people grasp this? something that should get done in 2-3 days is forced into a month? wth?

but i think you can get them in 2 weeks.

they’re not different.

at all.

if you want the thing, you do the tasks which reward the thing.

I’m all for big grinds for mounts or other sort of rewards, but having Allied Races so heavily advertised as an expansion feature should imply it being baseline, or at least have a short and fun grind, it’s a playable race after all.

I have unlocked every allied race so far except Vulpera and Mechagnomes so I feel I have some legitimate grounds to speak about them.

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oh you mean like they did in BC and MoP? But that would make far too much sense! Unless…it’s not about gaming but squeezing subs for all they are worth?

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Well ever since patch 7.35 I have felt that no players from then on ever will experience the expansion content as it originally was, or anything even close to it.

Yet, few players “experience all an expansion has to offer,” even if they play the content when fresh.

If anything makes sense, it’s just finishing the zone story. Liberate the people or whatever. What’s really immersion breaking is going through the story, helping this race, befriending them, and then they’re like… well we’ll join you IF AND ONLY IF… you repeat several of those things you just did randomly every day for a few more weeks. That should prove you are worthy of our allegiance.

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referring back to the TBC equivalent, flight was one of the main selling points.

…people had no idea that they’d need to literally beg borrow and steal, or be just plain rich in order to afford it.

people who simply played the game, had already met most of the requirements before the races were released.

if that’s how you want to look at it, when an expansion is over, stuff gets changed and/or removed.
once that’s happened, nobody can truly experience everything an expansion has to offer.

most raids have a weekly reset.

I don’t think it’s a fair comparison, since new races has been a baseline expansion feature several times in the past.

Personally I’m not affected since I only care to play Dwarves, however, putting myself in the position of someone who is passionate about a new race, then buys the game and pays for a sub only to realise it will take about 60 days of non stop grind? I would feel a bit put off.

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As was your reference to Netherwing rep. You misrepresent everything from early WoW. Just thought I’d point that out.

Like this . . .

This is absolute rubbish. Nearly everyone had enough to purchase flying as soon as they hit 70. It was, in fact, the first thing I did.

Epic flying took a bit longer to get the gold for, but not even 1/10th as long as that stupid pathfinder.

BFA must be really bad if people have to start making up crap in order to make it palatable.

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As someone who unlocked almost all the allied race (Only missing Kul’tiran, which i never plan to play…so might leave it at revered)

I agree, allied race Should not be timegated behind boring repeat rep grind. It turns new players away from the game. meanwhile there other games like eso,fxiv that don’t lock new race. etc (which brings in new players)

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I saved Zandalar! I saved whole villages, the king, etc. Why am I getting so little in return? In the real world if you saved a world leader you’d be hailed a hero and given all the honors. In this game your given 11 gold and then told to move on to the next thing. Nothing I do feels impactful and the game feels very closed off from the options a player should expect from an MMO RPG .

This is so true! The reward system in the game are trash. Im the guy Azeroth chose to give her heart to and Im pushed around by random nobodies forced to do peasant level tasks

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I don’t know. I came back after a nine year absence toward the end of Legion. I was really frustrated that I couldn’t fly in WoD. I nearly quit right there. Then when I made it to Legion I was always frustrated trying to earn rep because people who had flying unlocked in Legion already would fly to quest objectives, land and tap them while I was still running there like an idiot. I felt penalized almost, as those with flying already were just getting things done so much faster and easier than I was.

As a returning player, that was very off putting. During that grind I had some thoughts and ideas that could make it easier for folks catching up. Maybe after an expansion or two you reduce the requirements for flying and/or reputations for those older parts of the game. I don’t think veterans should take that too hard. After all, they have the benefit of getting to play those races day one. Even though I went back and finally unlocked WoD flying, I wouldn’t begrudge anyone if they could do it much faster than I had to at this point.

i had the gold too… but i’m not going to pretend that people didn’t spend months grounded.

do you not remember people always looking for warlocks who could summon people to the instances which couldn’t be reached without flight?

You forgot “Keep you subscribed at minimal costs while extracting maximum profit from each and every paying customer”