I am really looking forward to SoM releasing so that in about 5 weeks or so these same people can cry more saying the game is too hard and they need world buffs to beat it. At the same time, I will have already beaten MC and Ony, or I will be enjoying coming up with new strats to overcome the increased health without world buffs.
This exact thing happened many years ago on an EQ2 TLE server. They made the game harder. My guild rose to the occasion and figured out how to win. Most people, including the 2nd best guild, quit.
I can honestly see your concern. If the game is too hard, most people will quit. They won’t quit because the game is too hard, they will quit because they are used to it being too easy and they can no longer do what they used to be able to.
I am not one of those people. I find new ways. I rise to challenges. I accept them as they come. I don’t wine and cry that my character is not as strong as it used to be. I find new ways.
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We do do that. It’s called getting consumables and farming enough gold for repairs.
World buffs traditionally have never been a part of “getting ready”. and they shouldn’t be.
This is 100% false. No wbuffs pservers always died instantly or were DOA
Tell you what. I will be FOR world buffs with the following changes.
Tribute buffs can only be received by people in the group that participated in the killing of the king. So to get tribute buffs, you have to do DMN yourself instead of buying from a hunter.
Songflower timer becomes randomized so that it can no longer be tracked by an addon. This will make it so it works as designed, a random person comes along and picks a flower and is temporarily stronger because of it.
Dragonslayer turn in mobs maintain their cool down through death, so it can only be turned in once every 8 hours for the buff, as designed.
Warchief’s Blessing is obtained by only the group that participated in the killing of Warchief.
ZG buff can only be obtained by the people that participated in the raid. So if you want that buff, do an extra raid or two a week for ZG. Or implement a cooldown like dragonslayers.
No chrono displacers
Make those changes and I am cool with world buffs.
My guess is you will be greatly against any, or all of these changes because you make up the player base that wants everything easy. You want to just show up, get what you need and bail. You don’t want to work for anything.
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I can assure you we wil lnot be crying. That will come from 80% of the base once it starts costing them nearly 2k gold a week to clear 4 raids
You are fine to defend your opinion all you want. This is the reality you will be walking into.
I would like you to quote the sentense or paragraph where I was “crying”. Making a statement that disagrees with you is not crying.
Seriously, agree 100%.
I hope Blizz actually boosts boss health and damage high enough to make the fights harder, not just the equivalent of Classic 1.0.
I think every boss fight should be tuned to force players to see every phase of a fight. I killed Rag at least 50+ times in Classic and never once saw phase 2.
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well you’re certainly doing a lot of crying now
how about you stop and let these people speak for themselves
world buffs sucked. game was a joke with 30 sec boss fights and abunch of tryhards stuck in 2005.
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I would like you to quote the sentences of me crying. Simply making a factual statement and disagreeing with you is not crying.
“lots of people (who are far less skilled than me) are gonna cry about this in the future, believe me” is not a factual statement. it is a prediction with scant evidence.
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I never said far less skilled than me, i said below average or imcompetent.
That is your first lie.
Again, you have yet to prove that I am crying.
I will wait.
10 minutes and zero replies to this? This is a perfect solution to how to have world buffs. I thought you world buffs needed band wagon players would have agreed to this. Is it the part that you have to actually do some work to get your buffs that scares you? Maybe it is the part that you will most likely not be able to get all of the buffs that scares you. Maybe it is the part that this would be about as close to vanilla as we are likely to get that scares you.
I don’t understand the big fuss over world buff. To me they always was just that extra bonus that was optional thing. You guy’s made in a requirement for raids . If you dont like it then right click it off your character . It’s that simple .
Not sure who this statement is referencing. The people that made world buffs a requirement are the people that started using them as the meta. When that happened, all other players that were even remotely serious about this game were immediately required to use them as well, in order to be competitive for future recruitment into future guilds. If you are a person that wants to never use world buffs, and world buffs are available, then you better be in a guild that will never fall apart because your logs are going to be so comparatively low that you will never get into any other serious guild.
If world buffs are in, then everyone has to use them. The only way to get away from everyone having to use world buffs is to make it so no one can use world buffs. This is what Blizzard is doing. Now the other 75% of the players can finally play the way they want instead of the way the WB group made it.
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That’s what I mean , you understood it . ( The people that made world buffs a requirement are the people that started using them as the meta )
Then I agree with your statements excluding the part about if I don’t like it, just right click them off. As I have pointed out, doing this will obviously lower my parses, making me not competitive to other guilds if a situation arises that makes me have to find a different guild. Level playing field across the board is the only way. Everyone has world buffs or no one has world buffs. There is no “use them if you want” category unless you are a non-raider.
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What I am saying to me it doesn’t affect me . I will still play the game the same way with or without WB.
On a lot of private servers C’thun was almost un-killable.
i dont think anyone likes world buffs but naxx without them is hard as hell