You tell me what taking in 5k gold one night in a Naxx GDKP raid is supposed to be called. “LFM undergeared player to carry in Naxx, tips appreciated but not necessary PST!” ?
Im assuming the 5k gold you hoped to get for “helping” people raid Naxx is why you went.
You and Cezar called it a reward and its like yeah, tell us all something we don’t know. You’re rewarding yourselves with the gold people you’re charging people for the pleasure of your company - and please understand I am not judging you for that. But lets call it what it is.
Now, I know GDKP is more nuanced than a straight up carry and I don’t deny any of its benefits. I do think it could be a net positive but it depends on who is using it and why. I believe most people in them are playing with clean gold so to me its just another loot system designed to promote participation.
But we don’t really take buyers to those runs since they are under 2 hours. A lot of gear goes to rot.
There are some items that are really rare and people go after them for months and those are where most of the value comes from these days.
Most of the players have been the same for over a year.
The runs don’t need to be advertised the demand for naxx is far higher than the supply - because you need a group in which 40 people are focused and none wipe the raid. Good raiders will get their cut slashed if they make constant mistakes or don’t listen.
OK if you can buy consumes with this DKP system of yours then may as well just be gold ya?
IMO the real solution is just permanent ban the battlenet accounts of any one who gets busted for buying gold. No “suspensions” just flat out ban them forever.
One way exchange to gold at an NPC. The NPC increases ratio of gold per DKP until someone buys it. When people buy it, ratio of gold per DKP goes down.
Yes. That is explicitly what Master Looter is there for. It’s for the players to decide how they want to distribute loot.
So while not explicitly stated that the developers intended for this exact loot system, they still created an overall loot system that is toggleable in game at the player’s demand that allows the players to quite literally choose exactly how they want to do loot.
Moron.
Edit: Appealing to authority by going “muh developers intent” is cringe. Yikes.
And you gave your time for that gold, can we get around to the part where we acknowledge that’s selling your services? Even if that’s not fundamentally what you’re doing in a run like that you’re still using the loot system built on buyers and sellers and we know thats true because 7.8k gold. Call it a technicality.
None of this is news to me. Like I told the OP in my first post, its literally the same as every other loot system it just uses a different hook to fill slots. Otherwise every Naxx raid is designed to kill bosses and collect loot, do the particulars really matter?
The problem with GDKP is it can be exploited and its like, yea so is everything else so just chill the heck out. Anything you touch with bought gold is exploited, not the other way around.
I dont believe in collective punishment, especially collective punishment that doesn’t eradicate the problem (RMT in this case) so to me its like why bother wasting your time?
Dont buy gold and raid in a guild or SR pug. Problem solved. Its like whining about getting dunked on in STV on a pvp server. Go PvE if its that big a deal to you, sheesh.
My original reply was saying by abstracting loot with gold, it enables me to sell my services for in game gold. To me that is an additional ‘features’ that gdkps have which other loot systems do not.
Which allows me to have tons of in-game gold and that makes the game fun. It reduces any need to ever buy gold to zero.
You need to set the conversion to some starting value and it needs some function to vary at.
Please tell me how you calculate: 1) starting value 2) adjustments
Your idea is like a leaky boat you just cannot see it yet.
Also Cezar pointed out the biggest issue - it would incentivize people to constantly buy gold for consumes to protect their dkp. Whereas gdkp removes the need to buy gold.
You told me GDKPs gave you something you couldn’t otherwise get. You told me gold.
But I know what you mean in your particular case - what you are really getting is a reason for you to run Naxx and its like, hey, whatever floats your boat. Its none of my business how you enjoy the game. You got my blessing.
Are you really suggesting that people would buy gold for consumes in order to conserve their DKP, but would not be willing to just buy DKP directly like in the case of using GOLD as DKP?
