Hahaha, sure - you’re not gonna like it.
If there wasn’t enough supply of Lotus/Flasks, there wouldn’t be 145 Flask of the Titans on the Whitemane AH right now. There are 181 on Crusader Strike. Barely even a difference especially given Whitemane is Medium pop and Crusader Strike is high.
15x easier to makes flasks on SOD but somehow only 25% more supply:
Still 10x the cash cost on Whitemane and still this is totally unrelated to the fact that people buy gear for dollars on Whitemane, right?
Oh boy you’re going to loathe my rebuttal then.
- Static numbers represent a single point in time and tell nothing. This goes for your prices as well but I assume we could extrapolate more data on prices with addons like Auctionator. We need multiple data points to actually draw any real conclusion. Stop reaching so hard, you’ll sprain yourself.
2)The best information I can gather for population is log count via IF.pro. 30k to 10k, in favor of CS. All I see is more on the AH for CS at a lower price, which means demand is high, way higher, when compared to Whitemane. What can we extrapolate from this? We can extrapolate that Whitemane has far less demand for Titans. If there is less demand, then there also has to be less supply. Less supply means less farmers. Less farmers also means less bots, as the biggest benefit to the average player from having a massive bot population is cheaper prices across the board.
You know what high supply and low demand means? Wasted product, and for sellers, that’s wasted money. Not gold. Money. This is a business for them. They’re going where they can make a profit, and all I can see from this is that SOD is making them rich.
All you’ve done is just help me prove that CS has more bots, even without gdkp existing.
I never played it
It’s not about flask demand - it’s about gold demand.
The price of the flasks is ultimately irrelevant since they both have plenty of stock. The extra supply/mechanics etc. of SOD are also irrelevant. You’re caught up on the mechanics of the flask price, but this is about the cash price.
It is 10x is as expensive in CASH to consume on Era. The reason is because there is another demand for gold which drives up the value of gold (GDKP raid gear).
So, like I said before - if you can’t explain where the extra gold demand on a player in SOD is coming from, then it will remain clear that there is less demand for RMT’d gold because it is 10x cheaper.
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Bro we all know a ton of players left on SoD buy gold. And they are leaking to Era and their bots come with them. They were on Era before SoD as well - we see that community come and go.
And they aren’t the GDKP raiders - they are mostly the ones who cry about it because they now can’t afford to buy their way to items.
GDKPs price out gold buyers and rewards players playing the game. That is a feature.
You are literally crying that Era gold is too expensive for you to afford. Instead try playing the game 
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Cope.
Gold influences and is influenced by the entire market, especially high profile raid consumables.
To deny this is to outright deny how the entire system has worked for decades. It’s just disingenuous again.
I used your own talking point against you so now you throw your hands up and go “well actually it’s not even relevant hrrump” like lmao ok gg restart
I’ve been talking about the cash price the whole time. Here’s the link for people who are not cooked on xanax 24/7.
People like Xdrain say that GDKP makes it easy to consume on Era, but consumes costs 10x the amount in dollars. So where’s this ease coming from? Those dollars are spent on gold and transferred to Xdrain in a GDKP.
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I made 7800 gold last naxx.
Go check whitemane alliance and see how many flasks and stacks of potions I can buy with that.
I could drink everything on cooldown in pvp for like a month with that gold.
The ease is coming from the fact it only took a 1.5 hour naxx to farm 1 month of consumes.
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Perfect, now riddle me this: If consumes are so easy to get on Whitemane - why does it cost 10x the dollars to buy the gold to afford them as it does on SOD (where you can’t get gold via GDKP)?
You’re proving my point.
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Because GDKP pushes gold to players that play the game.
Thus people who buy gold have to spend a ton of money, but people who play the game, get gold very easily.
This is a feature - it is only bad for gold buyers and people who run bots.
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Again, we find ourselves in agreement. If you are raiding just for gold, because you don’t need any items, then you will get gold easily as RMT whales spend thousands of dollars in gold in your GDKP. You are buying flasks worth $3.00 with a split from a raid where items are selling for $1,000.
If you need items, you will not get them easily at all because you are no longer buying the “cheap” consumes, but the thousand dollar BIS.
All you have done is explained that you are a selfish and disgusting shill who enjoys the rewards of an RMT infested loot system at the expense of everyone else and spends her time gaslighting people on the forums about it.
You think an RMT dominated loot system is fine as long as you are the one benefiting. For the 16th time: WE KNOW
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This is where experience raiding GDKPs would show you that almost all items go for minimum bid.
So you are buying items for 200 - 1000g in everything under AQ40 and getting payouts that are 500-2000g quite often.
Most people are gold positive as they gear - and they are saving that gold for their big spend (usually a weapon if they are not ranking pvp).
Since so many raiders have all the items they need but are after gold, the system is very welcoming to new players.
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I’m aware. The distribution doesn’t change the total cost, as evidenced by your Naxx cut. Whatever the whales are bidding on - you’ll be spending big and those consumables won’t seem to cheap anymore.
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If you raid for a year you can easily afford any item in the game.
But you think gressil should just be handed to you?
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If this were true, your cut wouldn’t be so large and your consumes wouldn’t feel so cheap.
No, you do - as long as they’ve swiped enough.
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No most go to warriors that have been helping the raid for over a year and they get their payouts.
A raid group will see like 12 gressils a year. Payouts are easily 5-10k. Yet you freakout and claim whales when people pay 150-200k for it.
Turns out the system is great for raiders and it helps us distribute the hardest to distribute items in a way that is fair.
You have to realize they would also be upset if we just let whales into the raid to take their weapons each time. There is still a human aspect
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Ok, so how many times do you let the whales into the raid to take their weapon. Every other raid, every third? You’re now also suddenly aware that you’re recruiting RMT whales for your GDKP.
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I raid GDKP because I have zero desire to put together raids and want smooth runs.
I’ve never spent a second of my life organizing a wow raid.
But if a random player in bad gear that wasn’t playing properly showed up but had 500k to spend on an item it would be clear. It just doesn’t happen - the toons that show up without gear are alts. Like this warlock went straight to naxx after I boosted it, with gold I got from my main.
When there are hundreds of available raiders that have saved tons of gold, why would runs risk wiping and upsetting their best raiders to take someone that has the same amount of gold as the average naxx raider?
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If this were true, you would just use DKP. This is you 1 post earlier:
Hear something that I’m sure you’ve heard before: I am really just done listening to you lie.
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