I'm a 2004 original player... here's my thoughts on GDKP

You lose 1 DKP. You gain 1 Gold. Never the other way around.
You are literally completely fried on benzos just like Apathy.

I quoted your own words

Edit; i reread I see.

Anyhow my point remains the same - if you wanna write the exact way it will convert I can give you some of the issues it will create.

But discussing with words is just about interpretation and we can’t go very deep that way.

Bad memories? The second half of post launch Classic wasn’t pretty. It was pretty sweaty if anything - didn’t smell good. The offenders are largely gone but the odor still lingers a little bit.

GDKPs are technically pugs that use gold to distribute gear. Its a sales transaction between parties - not unlike RMT itself - large amounts of gold swapping hands. People who gear through GDKP are taking a little shortcut in comparison to their peers. Buying gold is another shortcut for people who like shortcuts. People naturally see the connection.

Another shortcut is mage boosting which back when Classic Era servers were 10k pop megaservers the boosters themselves were gold sellers and it created this vicious cycle on these factions where a normal level 14 player was looking at 90g for level 12 greens on the AH depending on server. Mage boosting was the business and business was good.

So you can kind of see where someone might be highly skeptical of it.

Ive conducted my own independent research into GDKPs and have concluded its not the best loot system for Era ever created nor is it the evil satan that’s going to plunge us all into hell.

While those memories are still painful and fresh some people allowed themselves to conveniently forget the more important of the two issues which will always be first and foremost, RMT.

You cant have one without the other but you can have GDKPs without RMT. People are content to bark up the wrong tree and simply go for the low hanging fruit.

I just meant my analysis was incorrect in that specific case.

GDKPs destroy the market that people running bots sell gold to.

The players that buy gold from them periodically for consumes and such now just get that naturally from playing the game.

Apathy has summed it up nicely in many GDKP threads.

People just hate GDKPs. Its really that simple.

I cant really blame them for that. I blame them for letting that hate get the better of them. Its not GDKP you need to get rid of. To not be focused on RMT is to not understand the problem.

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Careful, they’ll dismiss everything you say and call you a gold buyer if you talk like that.

Let me live in that head rent free.

Sorry, little late on this one. Was doing a gdkp. You still pouting?

You still acting like a petulant child? Yikes. Embarrassing. You must have been raised terribly.

Sleep soon yes, boomer?

I ran GDKP through Wrath and never bought gold. I made a prot paladin and farmed Kara which was about 1k/hr, then we 5 man BT trash for gems and hearts and made 1k to 3k/hr. I spent most of that in GDKP and it was a blast. I miss TBC and Wrath.

Yes, there’s no question GDKP greatly reduces gold buying by most of the members of the raid, who are carrying. Now, I’m not so naive as to deny it increases gold buying by the buyers, but the answer is to punish the guilty, not everyone who wants to raid in GDKPS.

alright grandpa glad to hear it now let’s get you back to bed

Lol-
If homey has $500 to blow in wow- god bless him,
Sheesh

Lmao I’m probably younger than you are, but you’re acting like a 10 year old.

Why are you even playing classic then? Lmao are you that bad at retail?

Look at SoD. No GDKP and RMT just moved onto other markets. Removing GDKP hurts the average player more than curbing RMT.

I don’t play SoD, can you elaborate on this? People say this a lot, but I have logged into SoD and there are PUGs running for every raid it would seem everything all day and they are all SR. What do you need to swipe for on SoD?

This. I stopped playing classic because im historically the poorest wow player in the world. But in wotlk for naxx i had joined some gdkp runs and suddenly had enough gold to max my professions, get consumables for raid and generally be geared for furute raids. While also managing to get nearly full bis and have a bunch of gold saved.

Gdkps were actively keeping me from buying gold. I play cata now and i dont seem to find gdkps anymore and i cant find pugs for the life of my because i dont have the time to minmax or find a static in a guild so i kinda just gave up

There should be GDKP and non GDKP servers imho.

Yeah those SR pugs that disband at the first sign of struggle and people leave part way if their item doesn’t drop. Sounds like a great time.

I certainly enjoyed the 3 different times I went to SR ony’s trying to get the Javelin on SoD and had groups that couldn’t make it past her air phase so they would disband after wiping anywhere from 1-4 times.

The average wow player still doesn’t know how Ony works after 20 years. I’ll either guild run or GDKP if it’s available, 0 reason to pug.

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