Baseless assumption. Just because something doesnt drop bis gear doesnt mean that people wont play it. If they like it they will play it. Look at PvP in the past where more often than not certain PvE items were bis. People still played it even if they were part of a group that couldnt get their hands on said items.
You do know what “BiS” stands for right? Best in slot. So obviously it includes Mythic raiding because we are talking about Best in Slot gear. A heroic item is not BiS. Neither is a 272 non vault item from +15 and above.
As i said: “Has M+ “devalued” heroic gear? Potentially. Mythic gear? Absolutely not.”
BiS gear is BiS gear. Mythic raiding is a requirement to achieve that currently.
Because they like M+? Because they hate Raiding? Because they cba to deal with a guild? Because they want to play at their own accord and not stick to a guild schedule? Etc
Theres an abundance of potential reasons.
He is wrong. BiS is BiS.
Ah now the insults are coming. Amusing. You said “its an opinion”. We are talking about BIS. Best in Slot. Something that has a crystal clear definition. The term itself. That is not up for debate.
He said raiding is not required anymore to acquire BIS gear. And that is, whether you like it or not, flat out wrong.
And you and me also brought devaluation into is as an additional topic and there i have already given my piece. On THAT we both have an opinion. On what BiS stands for however we dont.
They like has nothing to do with i Like alot of things in wow ,why do you think they go to the mythic+ in the first place it isn’t because of “I like” it’s because numbers count to most people and numbers don’t lie.
And you speak for everyone doing M+? Interesting. Tell me more.
Then they would hell bent try to get into CE guilds or acquire the gold to get boosts with ViPs. Because to acquire BiS gear Mythic raiding is required and that is because “numbers dont lie”.
The amount of presumption on this forum is unreal.
It’s all good, Blizzard could pull the plug and I’d just switch to another mmo. And if I had an itch to play wow, I’d just spin up one of my local Mangos vanilla/tbc servers for me and my friends until the itch fades once again.
They tried to make LFR tourist mode 8n WoD and coupled with the flying debacle reversed course hard in legion. Some people enjoy the freedom of playing when they want without regard for a set schedule.
Dude there has always been exclusive mounts. Are you also mad that there’s a mount for completing Keystone Master and achieving gladiator ever season? I’m not here crying those mounts are removed every couple months. Get over it.
Edit: Point I’m trying to make is you can’t have everything. Some things will be out of your reach. That’s fine.
I do wonder what would happen if every LFR and causal player just deiced one day to not bother, and jumped ship to another MMO, that actually rewards all levels of play with fun stuff (cough FF14 cough) would WOW be able to survive on the 1% ?
They’d have to sell a whole lot more of those tokens…
100% of the arguments that are made against LFR receiving rewards have yet to actually make a valid claim as to why LFR should be excluded from receiving said reward. It’s just a plethora of insults because there is no valid claim to make.
This change serves nobody. It’s literally just punishing players for playing the content they want to play.
I have never seen such disdain and hatred for other people just playing the game the way they want to. Especially when their play doesn’t affect anyone or anything else.
