Thanks. Sorry, just wanted to make it seem accomplishable for randoms out there who might be interested in ‘getting good’ lol. Regardless of chieve shenanigans, Blizz messed up by miscommunicating, but at the end of the day it’s one mount out of probably a hundred this expac alone.
LFR is the only raid mode that is designed to be un-losable and perhaps that’s why Blizzard wants people to feel rewarded rather than just gifted a mount for jumping off the edge 10 bosses in a row in LFR.
Grab a time machine and do LFR N’Zoth. In the time it took to complete that normal could have been cleared twice.
I can only go off my experience as a newer player. Seems like they fixed that issue mostly in Shadowlands. Sylvanas LFR could be a bit of a pain but only because so many people just walk off the edge in P2, but other than that it’s pretty ‘player friendly’.
Many players prefer M+ because they are unable to commit to a raid schedule, others are burnt out on raiding. How many of these players would be in raids farming tier sets?
A non-zero number of them. Full stop.
This statement is a double-edged sword.
If you think you are not worth Blizzard’s time, you would be 100% correct, because you can’t put the extra time… Or the effort. To do slightly higher difficult content just for a mount.
Why don’t I like to raid is because I prefer to play solo and only group when a quest sends me to a dungeon or such again then it is only through LFR also as an introvert I don’t do well around groups and it drains me so doing a wing of LFR for this mount would be alright instead of whole thing.
I am one of those who also doesn’t have the time to commit to a raid schedule when most do it on weekends, I am at work for 8 hours a day and when I come home last thing, I think about is playing the game.
And before anyone says I am playing the wrong game WOW is meant to be played in a group show me where it says this MMORPG just means a lot of players are in the world at one time nowhere does it say I have to interact with them.
He’s not wrong just gather the information in gd they talk about mythic + the most rather than raiding. Just ask, It’s not an imagination nor hidden.
Raiding requires me to be in-game and participating for multiple hours at a time. I cannot do that. Many people cannot do that.
Casual play is about inconsistency. That’s the real definition of it.
LFR doesn’t require you to run M+ or complete every ridiculous chore they keep stacking on players, like Shadowlands did with Torghast, Legendaries and conduits. LFR doesn’t require more than an hour to an hour and a half of game time to complete a wing.
I can do wing 1 one play session, wing 2 another session, etc… and I can complete the raid over the course of a week. I can’t do that with PUGs.
That’s just for me personally. I used to enjoy raiding with friends, but it’s just not something I can do.
Other games are continuously growing in popularity as WoW is losing popularity because they embrace solo queue systems. WoW seems to have a real issue with the ones they created.
The Dev response right now feels akin to the people in here who try to shame others for not meeting their arbitrary level of socialization or difficulty. Collectively, all this is going to do is continue driving people away from the game, regardless of how fun dragon flying might be in 10.0.
Edit: If they really want to draw more people into raids beyond LFR, the best thing they can do is break them into multiple different small raids that aren’t designed to take more than two hours to complete.
It’s also defined as
Which is how I define my own WOW gameplay and I Raid and M+ using that definition of casual. I have a group that does one night a week of Raiding to get AOTC and most of the group plays 6 hours or less each week.
Normal Raiding is casual raiding it’s just organized.
Agreed
Someone at blizzard screwed up. This could have and should have been communicated this in a clearer way.
Three months ago if it had been said not in LFR we would not be here today at this place. But for three months, ppl were excited for something they thought they could work on an achievement to get a reward in a mode of the raid they felt comfortable doing.
Disappointment in a normal feeling and it’s disingenuous for other players to try to gaslight other players into thinking it’s wrong to feel that way.
Man, people sre pissed about this mount. Solo raid in 12.0
Blizzard has gated mounts behind more difficult raids for a long time. Want the AOTC mount? Complete the heroic version of a raid, LFR and Normal don’t get it.
Given that, Blizzard should never have promised a reward for “any difficulty” of a raid and then take it away. Lame
To me “Casual” is people doing easy content, no matter how often they do it.
First time in a Season in WoW where I didnt do a Normal Raid…on Sepulcher Raid. Why? There’s nothing in there I want. Gear? Mythic+ has better loots. Tier Gear which usually drops on Raid? I got Tier Set from Creation Catalyst. There. Why would I pull my hair and do Raid if I can get everything I need outside of Raid.
Now, the slime Cat? Is that what it needs to convince me to Raid on Season 4? Sorry, raid sucks to me.
Not a popular opinion but Blizz should dismantle Creation Catalyst. I know everyone loves Creation Catalyst. Who doesnt want freebie Tier Gear? But Creation Catalyst forced people not to do Raid. Tier Sets has been “only on Raids” on all Expansions except on Sepulcher. To me, Slime Cat is not good enough incentive to do raids.
He is wrong. He said BiS. You cant get BiS from M+ alone. Has M+ “devalued” heroic gear? Potentially. Mythic gear? Absolutely not.
The M+ community is nagging about BiS gear from raiding for Key Pushing since ages.
If that were so then they would whole heartily not do mythic + but they do because it results are better then any BIS gear per number unless they are doing mythic raiding which only a small percentage will do. So mythic + did have an effect on the need for raiding and the need for BIS gear.
How many people are actually only able to do LFR and not any other difficulty, though?
I mostly do LFR if I want a raid experience, but I can do whatever I wanted, if I wanted to. Does that make sense? I imagine that’s the way it is for most everyone.
Some people who do LFR do it because that’s as far as they want to go or because it’s super convenient. What’s stopping them from doing Normal other than themselves?
If you don’t play as if you are in the MDI finals Blizzard does not care about you. This game has become the home of wannabe esport champions. I am not buying Dragonflight and just blowing my gold for subs because this direction is not what excites me. All my friends left the game for friendly group scene games.
Time is a value and it is a burden ,we are all slaves to it and are never free from it.