If you're banning GDKP, what alternative solution are you offering?

they are literally your dragon kill points

which would be absolutely fine if buying those points with dollars was a not an easy and readily available thing, because if you can then the bots flood the server to generate the gold for the whales to buy, and the price of materials drops so low/payouts become so high when items that are bis for a long time start getting involved it makes doing anything else for gold pointless.

this is what we mean by GDKP harming the game for everyone who does not wish to interact with that p2w system.

no RMT = GDKP not a problem
RMT = GDKP is a problem

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And there’s no incentive for people to

So looks like this might be a good play from Blizz

I think they are about the same - because they give non RMT people a way to enjoy the game. Without them it is much harder for legit players to play.

I think it is a hilarious play and am enjoying it. But I doubt it will be good for the health of the community.

I genuinely don’t know what we are losing?

But maybe I am on a PvE server and it was mostly pugs and our GDKP kept to separate discords because they would be mocked relentlessly in LFG.

Which is a shame because our server didn’t actually seem bad for RMT. Never got more than 16G in a DKP run, and that’s with epics dropping.

still waiting for an answer
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Well in later raids, you don’t get into the raid unless you swiped or farmed for 5-10 hours that week.

and you better have got your buffs :angry:

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I was on a loot council years ago. I was very unbiased hell I usually voted against myself getting the gear even if rest of raid wanted me to get it lol. You can be unbiased not saying it’s common though esp with humanity being in the mix. And honestly removing gdkp isn’t gonna effect 90% of the playerbase. Lol so the supposed vocal minority is bs lol

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why would it take that much farming? most stuff sells for 5g
 idk about you but it only takes me a few mins to complete 3 quests

‘later raids’ being the key word here so like AQ40 / naxx (sometimes even progression mc /bwl) one should bring 5-10 of multiple dps consumes, 2 flasks, 5-10 resistance potions, grenades, sappers, sharpening stones / weapon oil, full wb (which is free but takes time unless you pay for DMT) - at that point you easily have 1000+gold of consumes in the bags

sorry i was speaking to the price of current gdkp items on average

with your reply
 i couldnt agree more
 all those consumes take ALOT of gold to keep up with and will be a HUGE source of RMT
 WAY more than a GDKP
i would argue that GDKPs would help lower RMT as people will simply go to GDKP runs with their alts to make their gold to purchase their consumes
 but logic and foresight= hard for many it seems

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People who are vouching for GDKP’s on the forums are just trying to fear monger because they’re scared of not having them anymore and are trying to convince others who want it gone that we actually need it. Let them squirm

Blizzard included banning gdkp to help with building traditional guilds. If they want ppl to do traditional guilds and not pug, they should maybe not do 10 mans for 2 phases. 10 mans kill guilds more than anything. We’re in constant recruitment mode because everyone’s bored to tears with 10 man casual content. No reason to stick around.

GDKP allows for ppl to slot in and fit in when people disappear. It’s early in SOD so the roster boss already existing is bad for the longevity of the game. If they want guilds to form, give them something more to form around. A real raid experience, or faster phases to get to them. Else give people the freedom to have good pug’s through gdkp till they’re ready to ACTUALLY focus on being guilds


No, I used to be a gold buyer during TBC, and my friend (irl) bought over 2m gold in WOTLK. My view is that without GDKP, gold demand will decrease

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greetings thread dwellers. how about we add 3 loot drops per boss and call it a day. no gdkps needed anymore!

Most people bidding are buying gold with rtm. Supportting botters. Same botter jack the prices up in the AH so people have to buy gold to be able to afford anything.

People who rtm/gdkp/botters
 all of it is bad for the health of the game.

but ninja loot and hard reserving are good for the game, right?

I disagree. 10 mans are great for guilds because even small guilds can do them. My guild does 2 BFDs every lockout for our mains and alts.

could you please show me where you are pulling your numbers from to be able to assert most people who run in GDKP RMT? I havent seen blizzard release any internal data yet so a link would be great
 or are you simply acting as if assuming and speculations = Fact?

Made up stat

So gold buying wont stop.