If you're banning GDKP, what alternative solution are you offering?

Then why does it take over every version of classic wow?

This sounds like the people wanting to ban gdkp to me. If gdkp is taking over how can it be that people like me are the minority?

How does bidding on bop gear in raids screw up your AH prices, hmm? I have a thread on this but I’m curious how you connect those dots when you make a post like this.

As opposed to what? Who the raid leader subjectively thinks should get it?

If you dont like it dont do it. There is no justification to ban it. Its all a strawman argument.

How so? A person in a gdkp who didn’t buy gold is still very knowingly accepting rmt’d gold in their payout, they are not innocent and after the 8th they are also breaking tos.

Someone posting items on the ah has no idea who will buy it and 0 control over where that persons gold came from.

False equivalence is false

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Guilty until proven innocent for GDKP.

Innocent until proven guilty for AH.

Got it.

Yes because after the 8th gdkp is already a banned activity
 we already know you’re guilty of breaking tos just by being in a gdkp

Nobody is saying people should be actioned for previous gdkps

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The action im protesting is banning gdkp. That’s the point of this thread mate.

Overpriced garbage :joy:. Im sorry but i can’t afford those prices. I barely get gold. I am a casual player. I have a life and real job. If i need gold i just buy a wow token.

I have only pugged raids in SoD and have never done a GDKP and have never had any of these issues. Stop trying to justofy your gold buying.

The fact that it is done affects the economy and is bad for the community, which has been explained to you repeatedly.

Also, I thought you weren’t going to engage with me anymore. Just another lie on your part I guess.

There is no alternative to your stupid daddy’s credit card powered loot system. In vanilla, you either run raids in a guild which uses a loot-council system Or you pug it out and leave it to chance. Before you start crapping out about guilds and loot-council, you can always join another guild or make your own. End of the story.

What other loot system promotes cheating like this? Path of least resistance in this game right now is to swipe and gdkp. That’s completely inappropriate.

RMT and botting are bad for the community is what you mean to say. Gdkp is the strawman.

Nope. GDKP is a driving factor for RMT and botting. Whales just like to ignore reality because they can’t stand losing the ability to just buy gear.

It also degrades the social structure of the game. Raids are nothing more than a business transaction.

Fantastic decision by Blizz. And hopefully the toxic whales leave SoD. It would be amazing for the community and the game.

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Still a strawman argument if you target gdkp instead of the actual problem.

Nah, GDKPs are a huge part of the problem. Cope harder.

You can always go play Wrath where you can just buy your way to prosperity. Until it hopefully gets banned there too.

Look, trying to argue that RMT and GDKPs aren’t linked is beyond ridiculous. If there’s one thing SoD has proven it’s that those two things are inherently connected. Bots are freaking everywhere. Gold buying is rampant. What is there to spend that kind of gold on at level 25? GDKPs. End of story.

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WoW existed and succeeded before GDKP, and it will continue to do so after GDKP is gone. Other loot systems might not be up to your version of par, but many people feel the same way about GDKP. Pay to win is absurd and that’s the environment GDKP breeds. Play like everyone else and suck it up.

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You know what would really fix the rmt gdkp. Personal loot. No loot drama. Then you just have people selling runs to carry players for gear. And less people farming gold to stay online. And causes this and that maneuvering this into that which causes this over here implicating that this will in turn fix that but acutually causes this to happen that finally causes this and that with rust.

Odoyle rules!

So DKP has been around since before wow was a thing dating back many years prior.

The issue with the system is it isn’t fluid through groups if you leave one you can’t join another at the same level.

GDKP fixed that by allowing a form of points that moved from 1 group to the next which is why it caught on so heavily and become one of the top loot systems used in all of wow.

alternatively basic MS>OS and Soft reserve are available to but most groups don’t use these systems as they typically control it more.

People who make alts like to be able to come and go.