was asleep and just got up so let me reply to this stuff.
pallies are indeed 1-2 globaling people. you can watch pvp videos / streams/ play bgs yourself /play stv / ect for all the proof you need.
asided from the 3 lifebar pally , have you ever thought of a pally who uses the bubble offensively?
here.
pally repentances you and runs in and bubbles.
as a shaman you cant purge when bubble is up and cant cc or damage it either but youre still repentanced.
pally 2 globals you if youre not running woe and youre dead.
repentance then breaks from damage and he hojs you right after with 5 seconds left on immunity bubble.
they then start killing the rest of your hp bar and youre dead before stun ends.
gg.
the only classes capable of eating the 1shot things other than shaman running woe are priests (dispersion but who would waste a 1shot on a dispersed priest) and pally with bubble.
which means you are plenty durable and can bubble in reaction before a spell is cast and be completely fine.
pallys durability is very high and you would do well to not ignore it or play it down in an effort to bolster your point.
simple fact is yes woe dual rb build is busted in its current state. it needs to be that woe requires a shield.
but thats it. maybe a buff to sr maybe not.
other than that shaman are fine.
and again if you think shaman arent fine after that i point you to pallies priests boomkin and mages.
Yeah a Paladin has never saved a fight by throwing out off-heals. A Druid has never swapped bear to pick up the boss when a tank dies. Totally. /s
Whatâs more, if youâre playing a hybrid, you can swap between roles as it suits you without having to level and fully gear an entirely new character to fulfill the role.
Thatâs why the hybrid tax exists. Itâs because if a class can do everything and be top tier in everything, itâs suboptimal to play anything else.
You clearly wanna have your cake and eat it though, so enjoy the delusion!
Hybrid tax is a stain on balancing. An aspect of the game shouldnât be crippled simply because it can buff or rez⌠something you typically donât do during combat (with the exception of buff in some regards).
Shamans damage though is imbalanced. They shouldnât be nerfed into obscurity to balance the equation.
Why does a class have to be unviable or not competitive based on Battle rezzing, ankh or soul stones? I want to know how that is a reasonable argument.
1, every class was brought because 40 players allowed it. 2, Iâm not arguing this. I am talking about why people feel that hybrid tax should be applied to hybrid classes. 3, stay on topic.
swapping between roles most times require you to be out of combat to switch runes and gear.
gear that you have to get same as you would for rolling a completely new class and leveled it up and geared it.
the only time you can use the same gear (which doesnt get rid of the fact that you still have to change runes to be effective) is if you go from spell dps to heals or the other way around.
the very few times that you can actually save the raid by offtanking in a pinch are saved for those classes whos taunts dont require a rune to do so (so no enh isnt emergency tanking a boss unless they happen to be very high on aggro and are second on the list).
hybrids are not really full hybrids the way youre thinking they are.
Thatâs what OP is suggesting because Shamans can do everything. So they want them to be nerfed, which is fair in some regards, but in the case of âhybrid taxâ they should be nerfed in such a way that reduces their viability simply because they do other things other classes canât.
Thatâs what the focus is here.
I would argue the function of âviabilityâ can be summed up based on 1 or 2 abilities. A shaman back then was mostly used for their windfury totem. Not so much as their other utilities or damage. Thatâs why there were 5 Warriors and 8 Rogues brought to raids.
Same for Warlocks. Though very valuable, there was maybe 1 or 2 in a raid. At most. Damage is king and when you apply âHybrid Taxâ their viability falls to the niche ability they bring to the raid. And having 40 players in a raid ensured at least 1 of each class was present.
No, it doesnât. Youâre gonna be worse at it than a player who geared for it, but if you need to help heal to progress, youâre gonna be WAY more valuable than a Warrior bandaging people.
With all the convenience of not having to level 1-60. I guess youâre right, that only 7 days of your life more saved. Nbd. /s
So they should be able to cover all roles in a pinch, and be really good at any one of them? Again, what gamified incentive is there to play all the other classes that can do one or two things?
Jack of all trades, master of none is an RPG trope youâre seeing manifested here. Itâs valuable in its own right, and heâll, you still get to be master of at least one.
you a bit jelly? do i need to call the jelly police and get you arrested for being a jelly roll?
you can think of those extra heals or whatever function the âhybridsâ do as abilities like all the dps have that do extra things in the fight like nova or stun or sheep or any number of various other things they can do.
someone geared and specced for a role should be able to preform as well as everyone else at that role.
the offbrand âhybridsâ that pick up the boss and tank it for that last few % or the dps that throws an offheal here or there to smooth out a run or save a wipe is just the extra things âhybridsâ can do . they arent fully fufilling that role but for a few seconds here or there and should have no bearing on if they can actually dps like everyone else or not.
They should be comparable. Rogue and Cat Druid should be similar with a slight to more noticeable advantage going to Rogue since it is THE Rogue class. Same for Bear Druid and Warrior. There should be similarities in how functional both are at the same job.
If the difference is significant enough, in this community, youâll never see feral druids except the token one who has wild strikes. Sounds familiar right?
In terms of what the most important factor is and the thing players religiously and zealously focus on, DPS is the most valuable factor. Everything else doesnât matter.