Well you see in WoW you only play one role at a time. So how well you might be able to perform another role is irrelevant to how well you are performing your current role.
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ok nerf their tank, heal, caster into uselessness and you would still complain about enhance.
enhance does need to be nerfed but lets get away from this hybrid tax nonsense as everything is a hybrid now anyway. go play era if you want hybrids to have to play healers
they also use repentance as an interrupt then if you try go again they just bubble for 10s. untouchable.
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Buble after buble stun after stun repentance after repentance and the cake is loh? Is that Your argument? Because seems like You have never played a paladin in classic.
Shaman Tauren, canāt blame about not having a stun. Wah wah wah itās racialā¦ And? Druids in alliance doesnāt have 2 stuns like horde does. You need to get gud and start purging the paladin, use Your trinket, use options, because yes do You know almost every fight a paladin need a potion + eng?
And now people comming to the forums for talking about repentance, You guys are awful repentance is a good talent but very Bad for a 31 talent, only usable in PVP. Rogue has a free repentance with what 15 sec CD at melee? And blind is free off talents.
Annoying is not OP
Oh bro Youāre asking for a friend, not Your case, lol. Now we must trust that Youāre a pally killer and not a Bad shaman being killed by paladins every fight because ātHrEe lIfEā argument.
As i said before, if a class needs 3 hp bars for winning a 1 vs 1, the class is not OP.
I started SoD as a Shaman hoping to see 2handed shaman and shaman tank finally happen. I loved the tanking but I was disappointed that they focused on Dual Wielding instead of two hander.
Also holy PAL sucks
better than resto shaman
prote is the worst tank
Still above feral and warrior.
Copium to the extreme
Because you enjoy one class more than the other. Do you play a class you donāt like just because itās OP?
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Canāt tell that about other shamans spamming bgs (usually 4 shamans on wsg, 5-6 on AB). They are not FOTM rerollers, no no no.
To interrupt what? Your white hits doing 300-350 noncrit on plate, because with double rockbiter you have 1400 attack power, when BiS ret with gnomer gear and blessing of might has 650 at best?
Yea, and you just stay afk and watch it. So confused that you can not press lesser healing wave. Not that you need it though (with 5k+ hp, -10% all inc dam, -6% chance to be crit hit).
Are u sure? resto shaman should be able to purge every buff from pally, including BOTH RUNES from hpal given in this sod.
Maybe bear only, Warrior problem is gnomer as raid 
, druid the class that has 4 specs and only 1 Bad? Zzzzzzz
Now i understand your lowiq
Try to play hpal in pvp and come to talk with me after, not even cleanse in this phase when shamans got purge.
Welcome to the world of allianceās warriors, rets, rogues, melee hunters, feral druids. WoE needs to go from pvp. ALSO we need to fix castersā damage in pvp. But currently shamansā tankiness is n1 nerf priority, because it is n1 thing that destroys the balance, because SPs, mages and moonkins are not locked to 1 faction.
Forgot to mention the 5k hp
Can You please explain me, shamans running with loh already? The hp of a paladin is 2500 aprox, loh is less than 5 if the paladin is off cd.
What? Everybody did complain. And these classes recieved atleast 1 round of nerfs already.
It is not unique for paladin. Shaman with WoE destroys anyone. You have stats of 60 lvl r14 (high warlord) ERA shaman + 300 resilence from TBC with WoE.
Yep, lets bring 30 min cds up. After that what? Stay away from teamfights for 30 min untill shield wall is back? Nah, better lvl ench shaman with that 100% exp boost, so I can have 2 hp bars instead.
No comments. Pure comedy.
Yep, all of that helps against magic damage indeed.
Totally.
Thatās not exactly helpful in the open world.
Right now on a PvP server if someone picks a fight with me in the open world, I have the tankiness to survive the burst/high damage opening and have a chance at killing them if they didnāt prepare well.
(This is particularly helpful when Shadow Priest just like to hit you with a couple of dots from max range and then just run while you meltā¦or the paladin that comes in with An Exorcism, followed by a HoJ, followed by a judgement, followed by a Divine Storm, followed by a Crusader Strike- all while youāre stunned, then gives you a repentance to sleep it off while their CDs finish resetting and they start the process again without having been touched thus far.)
- I notice you didnāt add Paladins to that list (because you already know Paladins are strong AF and tanky as hell)
- And those ARE locked to one faction.
- Once the overall damage comes back down from orbit (not just caster damage, rune ability damage in general) Iād be happy to run Shammy rage. Iām not running WoE because I like itā¦ I hate having a finite gas tank.
Boomies are the only ones that got nerfed kinda back to realityā¦
Spriests got a nerf to their instant cast instant death spell, and a buff to their DoTs at the exact same time.
Mages got a nerf to their slow killerā¦nothing changed with Arcane Surge or Living Bomb
Also, Paladins just got a massive buff to their damage.
(Including making Crusader Strike ignore armor and have no resistancesā¦)
The damage stats Iāll give you (AP is nuts)
The ā+300 Resilā isnāt unique to shaman. (Hell, warriors have that built into defensive stance, and always have. Then thereās rogues and warlocks.)
Itās also a class without a stun, fear, Sap, stealth, bubbles, plate, and all of the above items,.
(Not that itās a concern for you, who Iām pretty sure are a Paladin player; that suits you just fine.)
And just ignore the rest of them and pretend they donāt exist.
Itās not funnyā¦ you just know that the ultimate way to not be able to take damage is to not be known to exist. (Itās the only defensive stronger than bubble.)
Being able to instant into a 40% speed root break? (And then heal themselves out of range?) Yehā¦ thatās pretty good.
(And if theyād like to come back and fight, they can stealth in for a stun- you knowā¦ the ultimate defensive.)
Iāll offer you the same question I offered the actually genuine respondant (even if I donāt expect a genuine answer based on your responses thus far:
What would you replace WoE with to keep Enh Shamans from just melting? (Thereās a reason they didnāt exist in Classicā¦)
Iād love to run something other than it, but also not just be a victim in PvP.
Only stupid people think a hybrid tax should exist in the first place.
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Reread the post again. Hint : what comes after warriors.
They are not. Starfire hits like a truck.
Pure meme spec that becomes useless with 0 mana after.
To a seal we use in pve only.
Other classes give up damage or cc for that.
Same old song. Purge, tremor, decoy, grounding say hello. There is a reason ele shamans were a must have for any decent premade for ERA (EM CL+shock oneshots still exist and it will become even more broken on 60 with r14/t2,5 gear).
SR obviously, with some buffs. They did not exist in classic, because elemental was beyond OP. And it will still be like that. Even if they tie WoE to shield only, guess what, who will still be able to use it?
Thanks for letting us know that its all about skill issue.
Is very hard to use the trinket in hoj i Guess Your brain may explode.
And thanks for showing that paladin is not one shotting people like people Say. We need to make a full rotation x2 times in stun followed by repentance and reset cds if Youāre still alive we need to buble.
Not very different from rogue at the end? I mean, the argument was ārogue is a pvp classā well, ret is a pvp spec with a 31 talent only usable in pvpā¦ And ret still is worse than sham in damage and pressenceā¦
But thanks, can You teach us? I want to know the rotation from every class since what i understand is that ret is the only class that has spells to press while other clases like shadow priest can only press void plague and swP? Huh
Remember that ret in era had 1 spell to dps, the judgement, and now people is crying because ret is pressing spells.
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just cause we parse low doesnt mean were weak though.