It takes more than literally just reading chat to both form or get someone to invite you.
It’s great that you want to distill the group forming process down as much as possible to make your point, but the fact of the matter is you wouldn’t be in this thread in the first place, whinging up a storm, if forming groups outside of RDF were so deterministically easy.
It requires input that simply is not required if you use RDF. Plain and simple. This is inarguable.
No it doesn’t it’s literally just responding to the chat message fast enough on the joining side.
Oh and being the right class but that’s not skill either a barrier which only matters when
CC matters.
How much of a beating will you take before realizing that you simply just don’t have the pulse on how Blizzard wants to direct their game?
You’d think a year of embarrassing yourself would be enough, but no, it never ends with you. You just never learn.
If you think RDF does not create a meaningful gap in the group forming diagram between doing it manually, and doing it with RDF, then you’re just making the exact same mistake you were making in the dual spec argument when you tried to argue that dual spec was necessary because people already respec often anyway so there’s no need to give them the hassle.
You’re making a solid case for why RDF is unnecessary, just like you made a great case for why dual spec was unnecessary.
LoL so we can see blizzard is already updating the LFG tool to the retail version, remains to be seen if it will be cross realm, which kills argument they value chat pugs. And we know they understand the issues with low level dungeons and low pop realms.
And hey I’ve never said LFD is necessary, just that the issues it addresses should be addressed.
Finding a group isnt hard its just a chat message response.
We need RDF because finding groups is an issue and needs to be addressed.
Wait, what?
Imagine not understanding something so simple.
I tell you what if the new tool is cross realm I will allow you to add me on Btag and I will carry you thru 1 heroic a week as a favor to you.
You’re welcome
How is reading a chat message an issue that needs to be addressed?
It’s actually humorous to me that you can’t see how poorly you navigate the line between “This element of the game is so easy, so please eliminate the obstacles around doing it”.
You use the “It’s easy anyway”-argument because you want to diminish the idea that whatever we’re discussing adds an element of difficulty that’s worth keeping, but can’t escape the fact that you’re still campaigning for a feature to make something easier, purely for the reason of making said thing easier.
It’s like watching you punch yourself repeatedly, I’d have to imagine some people feel bad watching you do this to yourself at this point.
The issue that needs to be addressed is getting a group 100% of the time Vs getting picked to be in a group.
Try to keep up i understand we are using big words.
Sorry, but Ziryus tells me that all you need to do is read chat and boom, you have a group. Sounds easy enough.
I’m not sure what is confusing you.
How is staring at a chat screen or add on a good user experience?
I’m sorry, when did we start talking about user experience?
We’re talking about the ease or difficulty of doing a thing.
Making a group without RDF > Queueing for RDF to get in a group in terms of difficulty.
Go ahead, tell me that making a group without RDF is laughably easy, so that I can run this circle over and over with you about how if it’s so easy, then you don’t need RDF…
No it’s not.
Making a group without LFD is laughably easy, if you are a tank or healer. You know exactly what LFD also rewards.
Who hurt you?
I don’t understand the hatred for DPS players, I just don’t get the stance of being ok for players who pay the same price as you to play the game and saying it’s ok if they can’t access a part of the game they want.
You’re clearly trolling at this point.
There’s some serious sadism radiating from her…
Then you don’t need LFD. The End. Next topic.
But we don’t not need LFD 
Weird how QoL works, and unlike you i don’t hate people who would benefit from LFD.
Playing a rogue in TBC is like getting picked last for group activities in school. 
Instead of having tirades on “why my solution is better”, let us try to do a pro/con list.
Con of LFD:
Pro of LFD:
I cannot help but see an overwhelming advantage of having the LFD. And i tried really hard to find more Con of having LFD, I just couldn’t.
On the blizzard money-making side, I understand that getting unlimited lvl 70 is a short term money maker. But the above Pro absence, would generate more frustration and unsubscriptions which will be more detrimental to the profit.
I wouldn’t mind removing the instant teleport to dungeon while maintaining the automated group building part.
Faturday.
Remember, this is the person who switched from rogue to druid in order to get into groups. I guess that attitude is to be expected when you can’t play the class you want to play.
Getting into groups is easy! All it requires is leveling up a completely different character. DPS players, amirite? 