That is a good argument in favor of LFD. It is a different argument from “if you don’t like it don’t use it”, which is the whole point of this particular thread.
When you are providing extra rewards “as an incentive to queue”, then it’s not as simple as “if you don’t like it don’t use it.” People would then be using it because they like the incentives. Not necessarily because they like the tool itself.
Yeah. I’m fine with this. This would make it like a BG queue too. You pick up the BG daily you queue it up. You still get the rewards from the BG and the daily itself. Just no extra rewards from the queuing itself.
If they made it just a group-forming tool without the extra rewards, I have no problem.
Socializing 
Just us nerds yapping about our favorite pastime which will one day lead to things like Zipzo and Ziryus swapping feral druid stories at the Manuredps family barbecue while I solicit garrison help from Redheadchild and Huffpost as we prepare for WoD Classic.
We’ll sing a really awful rendition of Kumbaya while we make smores and laugh about all those silly arguments of the past.
Yes, I can eat another couple of hot dogs! Man, I cant wait.
nah man, this is wow. that doesn’t happen, didn’t you see all the comments up there.
I don’t disagree with any of this. In fact what you just said is the whole point of this particular thread.
That a good argument in favor of LFD is: Because “the lfg channel sucks so bad that even without any rewards people would run from it”, and LFD is a good alternative to that.
That it is not a good argument in favor of LFD, to say to the people who still want to form groups without using it, that if they don’t like LFD they don’t have to use it. You obviously do not really think that, because you are saying “so I still think you’d have almost no one to pug with”. That is the point. If LFD were implemented, especially if with the extra rewards it originally had, I would have “almost no one to pug with.”
If you accept for the sake of discussion that pugging manually without LFD, is something that I want to do. Leaving aside for a second that you can’t imagine why I would possibly want to do this. Then, if I “have almost no one to pug with”, I am more or less shepherded towards using LFD whether I liked it or not.
I think this is less likely to happen if LFD didn’t offer extra rewards that the dungeons themselves don’t offer. It doesn’t mean I think people using LFD are going to be a minority now without the extra rewards. It means that without the extra rewards just for queuing, it’s more likely that then it really WILL be “if you don’t like it don’t use it”.
And I don’t see that as a valid reason to eliminate the RDF because you’d be forcing the vast majority of players to play your way. That’s the point. Either if you don’t like it don’t use it, or you’re such a tiny potion of the player base that you view on it should not over ride the vast majority
I never said I think it’s a valid reason to eliminate RDF. I’ve said several times I think RDF is a necessary tool in today’s classic wow atmosphere.
What I’m saying is you’re saying you don’t think “not being able to pug” is a problem, but I do. I think it’s a problem BUT I think the advantages the RDF brings outweigh this problem and other problems with it. This is where reasonable people can differ. The fact that I think the problem is outweighed by advantages does not equate to “there is no problem period” (if you don’t like it don’t use it”).
It’s a dismissive and factually incorrect argument that don’t need to be used because there are so many other better arguments.
I don’t make the argument that the vast majority hate the lfg channel and would flock to the rdf in droves because there is no way to prove that. I think it’s true but I don’t make that argument unless forced into it as you’ve done here. When I say if you don’t like it don’t use it it’s a way to get people to admit that the vast majority of people hate the lfg channel and would flock to the rdf in droves. It’s a way to get people to admit they are in a very small minority. “Not being able to pug” using the lfg channel is a problem that will only happen if the vast majority of players hate the lfg channel and flock to the rdf in droves. There’s only one way to solve that problem, give people no choice but to use the lfg channel by eliminating the system that the vast majority want to use. Either a small number of players are hurt by the problem of not being able to use the lfg channel or a massive majority of players are hurt by not being able to use the the rdf. Some problems are not solvable for everyone and you have to pick the one that creates the least problem for the smallest number of people.
So here is a legitimate question for everyone pro LFD.
If the reward from doing dungeons was left the same as today, so two per day, would you will want LFD?
Is that reward why you want LFD?
As said before
Make a NPC.
Everyone is happy.(debatable)
But they are hurt by the problem.
“If you don’t like it don’t use it” is saying no one is hurt by the problem because there is no problem.
You and I are basically saying the same thing. I agree that after LFD is implemented, LFG chat channel users will be a minority. However, the overall utility of the LFD tool for the majority will outweigh the minority.
You and I don’t disagree. All I’m saying is don’t say “there’s no problem at all!” because that simply isn’t true. Just because they are the minority doesn’t mean they should have their concerns completely dismissed. I would posit a better approach would be, “I hear your concerns, but I think there are more important things to consider than what you are concerned about.”
Which essentially is what you and others already are doing when they are asking the question of, “Would it alleviate your concerns if there was LFD but [remove extra rewards, etc.]”. That is a good approach.
A dismissive “don’t like it don’t use it problem solved” is not a good approach.
Aww shucks 
I always imagined we would all get into the same cross realm, cross faction LFR group during Cata classic after triple specs are patched in and we could all discuss how the formerly universally despised garrisons of WoD were actually a beloved feature and need to be put in MoP Classic along with Ashran except this time the output is for both needs to be quadrupled because of how fun not doing something is and how its all about helping those poor, poor souls who can only play 25 hours a week instead of 40.
Ah well. What can ya do?
Reward is irrelevant
It’s a mountain out of a mole hill.
I get the concern but people are not asking for LFD so they can spam LFD for last tier’s token.
Badges always end up irrelevant anyway I think I only get three badge items in the beginning…
I think it’s obviously better to be able to get groups over not getting groups.
we could start a guild.
May I recommend a leveling guild
Looks like it would be 90% druid and that invites some awkward assumptions about the nature of the guild I want no part of.
Unless its an all rogue guild in which case Im in.
its like mostly feral druids, they are basically rogues.
Miss me with that furry stuff.