If we can't leave M+, end the dungeon when timer ends

I am banned and never did it on a maliciously porpuse. I just left keys when it was an 100% deplete or a wipe-fest with a bad ending situation. Never grief people, never bricked keys for nothing. So yes, you can be punished if you just leave bad keys. happened to me. (and never LEFT a ‘‘weekly no leavers’’ btw)

If that is true sorry to hear that is happening to you.

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How did you go from “how is that relevant” to “why it isn’t relevant”? Do you even understand what’s going on or are you just arguing to argue?

2 post classic toon account. right press x to doubt.

No one was banned. It was a suspension. This also doesn’t happen from leaving 1 key. Your entire falsified experience is disproved with Blizzard’s post.

You aren’t. You can leave a key if it goes to crap. Nobody is going to get suspended for leaving a bad run now and then.

With no way of knowing the threshold and what constitutes a ban that is a hard to say confidently.

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While I agree that they need to be more clear about a policy that’s enforced with suspension, if you’ve been doing M+ and you’ve been bailing on bad groups now and then but weren’t suspended, what you’ve been doing is probably okay.

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ive never done a single mythic dungeon yet, but if its a timer… doesnt the dungeon just “fail” and boot everyone out when the counter hits 0:00?? most of the games with a count down timer just auto boot people out when the timer hits 0

What does it mean? Specifically what amount of leaving keys constitutes a suspension? Is it 10, 20, 50 or is it percentage based like if you don’t finish half your keys.

No you can keep going to finish as even if you’re over the time limit you get a lesser reward.

And it still counts towards a vault slot the same as a timed key.

wow! Thats kind of awesome, if you fail… you shouldnt get credit for it, it should just be a failed try. So why dont people just queue up whatever the max reward is, sit in the dungeon and let it time out and so you get the reward for doing nothing but just sitting there waiting out the timer?

i mean… let the time expire so theres no pressure and pull as slow as you want to just get thru to clear the dungeon.

I think you missed the point entirely. You still get rewards at the end, and as far as I can tell, you still get something in the vault. If your only doing it for score, then… just assemble a squad that you will run the higher keys with.

Your overreacting to what Blizzard said. You signed up, you made the choice to go with that group. And you’ll only get banned if you leave a lot. They didn’t say you’ll get banned for leaving 1 or 2.

The timer is there for the people that like it. If it puts too much pressure on it for you, then maybe pug M+ isn’t for you. I don’t mean that in an insulting way, though I’m sure plenty will take it as such.

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There are some groups called “completion,” that basically look to do this they just take their time. The problem is even if you list your group as completion if someone wants to time it they can lie, join and just quit if it fails to time which MAY be part of what is going on with the suspensions.

There was an interesting video not sure if it was YouTube or a twitch stream of a group taking it so extreme that they did a high key and waited EVERY PULL for bloodlust. Trash, bosses it was hilarious I think it was four hours long.

You’ve missed the point of the timer if that’s your argument. This is a bad argument and I want to think your smarter than that.

If you can’t handle the timer in the pug world, then pug M+ isn’t for you.

Blizzard openly stating you won’t get banned for 1-2 and people still raging is very telling. It happens in all games though people do something a dozen times, or a hundred times but when they get banned they swear it’s the first time ever.

Now, it would be nice if blizzard was a bit more open about how many times it takes and had some way to track it.

For example, you get suspended if you quit 5 keys within the first 10 minutes in one week so far you have quit 3.

Or you get suspended if you leave half of your keys before completion, or before time expires, right now you have quit 42% of your keys this way.

i didnt see that one but i saw one where a group hijacked a person who signed up for a m2 and they took the person in a m10 and where laughing at the poor person. They actually carried the person but I wonder if that happens with the whole thing that someone signs up for a m0 or m2 or whatever is doable for the average joe and gets hijacked into a m10+ and they leave if they end up getting banned for leaving.

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Blizzard can’t do that. Let’s be honest, if they give us how they suspend, then you know people will turn malicious and ride that line. It’s much better that they keep it hidden so that griefers can’t grief up to the line. It’s like the dungeon leaver debuff, something we have to deal with because people can’t behave.

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Most likely the plus 4 area, its where most newer folks tend to be stuck at since its the first jump in difficulty.

You don’t get banned for leaving a group like that. You have to be constantly leaving.

Oh. I should warn you, Mafic is just a forum troll. Don’t feed Mafic.

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It’s quite literally setting yourself up for the best chance at success. Why on earth would I bring some 590 chump when I’ve got 20 630’s signing up for the same key? Use your head… Sure it IS possible, but I’m not going to take that chance. Especially if this suspension thing sticks