If we can't leave M+, end the dungeon when timer ends

I can see you’re new, but that actually doesn’t help at all-
If rogue even cares to unafk and start kicking after you say something polite and are still reported for, they will simply overlap their kick with the tank who’s suppose to be first kick in every group, about 2-4 times. Then they’ll go back to stop kicking.
People will do what they want all dungeon. They don’t change, or pick up philosophies half-way through, AND it’s not even reasonable to ask that they do.
A rogue that doesn’t know how to kick, also doesn’t know that tank gets first kick unless otherwise stated.

I have m+ experience. You clearly don’t.

This doesn’t track when there’s multiple things to kick. Most of the time, you can type - which I’ll do in pugs - “ill kick star”, based on my WA for marking.

I’m not?

This is 3 for 3 where you have taken things out of context. You are either doing this intentionally or you need to go back and learn basic reading comprehension.

Yea.
Have you been doing keys this season? Sounds like no.
We’re chalk-full of new players who gear in delves and not one pug group has ever said kick x marker yet in any keys that you’ve done.

So what are you gonna do about it?
Kick leavers of course :joy:

and now we’ve come around full circle. Telling people what to do will get you reported.
You see the problem here right? You’re a little brighter than most I hope?

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Then Blizzard reads it and tosses the report in the bin assuming you were civil about it. You think bricking a key is more responsible than just asking players to step it up in certain regards.

I’m not the one saying getting reported for nothingness is a non-issue.
As per the news today, it’s clearly an issue.
That you’re supporting.
If you’re supporting it, clearly you’re reporting it.

Don’t backtrack now! You were being such a perfectly good shill so far!

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In the quote you reference, I’m giving an example of what I would be kicking. There is no directive I’m issuing, merely communicating what I’m doing.

If someone is doing something that bothers you, how do you respond?

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It is a non issue because 1 report doesn’t do anything. You need to gather enough reports within a timeframe to trigger the system.

It’s not. Clearly. The issue is people being hyperbolic and not understanding that they suspended players who were both leaving very frequently and with malicious intent. Not just players who left a key once in a while.

This is a logical fallacy. Regardless, I’ve also neither supported it or denounced it. I’ve been arguing the facts and going against the hyperbolics.

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There has been a team blocking report function for awhile. If you are a player who just joins keys just to brick them chances are you have had action given to you due to this function bringing it to Blizzard’s attention.

All you do is rant at Blizzard on the forums. You pay money just to complain, it’s bottom behavior.

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You weren’t, you were assigning rogue to kick star. Now you’re backtracking.
And assigning kicks gets people reported.
And how does Amarth in a key that matters work out for you if you’re not allowed to assign kicks, hmmm?

Again, full circle.

I don’t report people. I play with curseword filter like an adult.

This is straight up gaslighting, just like the last time in this thread you tried to die on this hill. False flagging and abuse of the report system is a known epidemic in WoW.
There is no such thing as “1 report”. That’s not even a question, 1 report. Grow up!

what are you even talking about

nice dodge from the topic since you can’t reasonably address it.

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Playing Tank I have started leaving any key that clearly has people in it that shouldn’t be there. How many depends on key level. 1, 2 or even 3 bad players in a +4 isn’t an issue. A single very bad player in a +10 is probably GG. Them dying over and over will brick the key if nothing else.

I have also started leaving any key with toxic players. They get a warning to shut the yapper and if they can’t I dip.

Out of 120ish keys this season I have been the first to leave like 5 or 6 times maybe? I don’t find that many toxic people or people that are so bad I can’t be bothered to try. Often the bads are a source of entertainment… like they fail such easy mechanics that you can’t help but keep going. Its like watching a car crash.

Respectfully, from my read of the comment trail, i wasn’t referring to issuing kick orders. I was stating what I would kick. You were responding to someone about a rogue, you continued the rogue comment:

and i responded to your incomplete statement about overlapping kicks with what I would call out:

I meant in real-life, how do you handle interactions that bother you - I would think that would be transferred here. And yeah, I generally don’t report people, can’t remember ever having done so in-game.

I disagree with this premise on two counts 1) my experience, players don’t need to be told to kick, they just don’t know who has what kicks, hence why i make the first step and ‘break the ice’ by stating my intention to prio kick star-marked enemies, and 2), I disagree that working as a team, making plays, asking for “kick boss” (yay mavis beacon for touch-typing) will be frowned upon. If it does, and I get reported, I guess I get reported. Haven’t yet since playing M+ in each expansion since Legion as tank, so we shall see!

And, if they’re not kicking and the group wipes, I will respond with ‘need some help on kicks with mages/amarth’. If we wipe again, well, that’s a bummer. Dust myself off, go join another key and try again.

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I assume the correct answer is to make your own group so that everyone disbands at the same time and nobody gets reported lol

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From what I read is that the people who were banned were doing it maliciously. I would assume that as long as you don’t do it for a malicious reason you will be fine.

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According to who? Blizzard? The great makers of decisions when false-reporting has been an issue for years and they’ve done nothing about it? They know for sure whomever they banned (if anyone) based on reports were legitimate reports all of a sudden, huh?

Blizz doesn’t make a post every time they ban people for goofy reasons.

Talk is cheap. Especially from Blizz PR.

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You’re saying a lot of words, too many words, and it’s just not the reality of things. Your comments are clippable.

I don’t have any insider knowledge to the issue at hand, just what I got from reading the Blizzard post that various people shared in this thread.

exactly.
When stuff is intentionally vague, it’s for a reason.

Still haven’t explained why it isn’t relevant which makes my argument far more compelling. Protecting innocent players is more important than catching a few bad apples.

Very true and you are a valued member of the WoW community. Thank you for saying it.

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