it wont be up for 6 months. Do you people even read or watch interviews? Blizzard said a month tops. Bunch of cry baby doom sayers. lol
Blizzard said layering will be removed when phase 2 starts as the latest point.
And phase 1 will last months.
I think you underestimate how hard people will abuse thing if they are able to, there will be 60âs within a week, if they have 3 weeks to farm like mad they will and it truly will screw up the economy
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Did carry the sqr of pi.
Donât forget to divide by 0.
Typical blizz, doesnât listen to feedback during a beta when feedback is crucialâŚ
I remember all the problems people complained about during the BfA beta like the broken ilvl scaling and the GCD changes and that all stayed in the game after launchâŚ
They said potentially until phase one ends and thats ONLY IF it is needed. Thats a worse case scenario and i can assure you it wont be needed beyond a month and a half tops. They are just being cautious this time around and covering their butts so players cant go back and say âyou said only a month wtf BLizzâ in case they have to keep for an extra 2 days. Because lets be honest. WoW players like to gripe and moan about anything.
It could be an extra .5 minutes and people will complain.
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exactly my point. God forbid they were slightly off about their promise. Even then in order for people to âabuseâ this effectively, you would have to have buddies online who are in a different layer to begin with and then invite you, so you can go over there and kill mobs or gather mats. Which lets be honest, is not that effective since people will be camping nodes and herbs spots anyways . Streamers are the only ones who can really utilize this effectively by having their massive fan base log on and just sit there waiting to invite the streamer once mobs were cleared in a layer. It would be like server hop for them but for majority of normal players who have limited people to do this with it wouldnât work. Plus im sure your buddies would want to kill mobs themselves anyways and not just sit around inviting you to their layer just for you to kill mobs and get loot and not them. In the end people are being stupid about this whole layering thing and just need something to cry about.
What you are not seeing isâŚ
Where did this person get that stockpile? Other layers? So you believe those layers are void of people wanting to also stockpile?.
1 server supports 3k-ish population. 3 layers is 3 economies worth of players. Those resources are the supply the number of players, the demand, goes up as a ratio.
Knowing tourists do what tourists do does not imply expectations of failure.
Failure to plan for tourists to do what tourists do is to expect failure.
Ghostcrawler promised me a pony. I got a sparkle pony.
Ion promised me no layering after 3 weeks. I expect it gone after 1.
Blizzard always exceeds expectations⌠right? Right???
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the original plan to have sharding in the starting zones was better than layering i regret getting so upset about it
You said it yourself, the people farming these mats are going to hit 60 before everyone else and sit on the materials until everyone else is 60. Pretty sure their layers in high level zones are likely to be mostly empty and ripe for farming.
99.9% of the player base is going to be focused on leveling, while that .1% is going to be focused on abusing layering to farm materials.
The point is, a player shouldnât be capable of farming said mats through layering. Itâs not how gathering materials functioned in classic. And while 3 layers=3servers worth of economies, youâre going to give an economical advantage to players abusing a system. Thereâs literally no reason why you should be able to jump layers and gather materials without any cool down.
20/20 hindsight is great, but you probably want to also apologise to those of us who said âLets have sharding, thereâs worse alternativesâ.
Canât blame people for expecting Blizzard to give classic servers, an actual classic server.
Actually what am I talking about, this is Acti-blizzard. I guess you can blame us.
Can blame people for a massive lack of foresight when they say âThereâll be millions playing!â and then wonder why Blizzard intends to put in layeringâŚ
Ok, still ignoring the thing I am saying so lets illustrate it again.
Drop it down to 1 server with 3k players. How many people hit 60 and farm all willy nilly?
2% of the population? Lets go with that for simple examples.
2% of the population (60 players) are out farming 1 servers worth of resources.
Add a later. Thatâs 2 servers worth of resources. Guess what, thatâs 120 players. You see how itâs a ratio?
What you are claiming will be a layering problem is actually a problem without layer. Itâs a perk of rushing the leveling process.
How is that a problem without layering? The system wouldnât be open for abuse if it didnât exist or if they simply applied a fix.
If someone wants to level up and farm legit, thatâs awesome.
If someone wants to abuse the layering system to farm, that sucks and shouldnât be allowed.
Hope that was clear enough.
If there were only 3000 people on the server, youâd only see 2 other people in a zone if you get ahead.
With layering and 6000 people, there may be 6 people in the zone, but you only see 2 because the other 3 are on a different layer.
Without layering and 6000 people, youâd see all 5 of the others, but thatâs not representative of the genuine experience.
You should only see 2 other people because thatâs what a 3k server would give you.