and so? if they are PART of that particular expansion there is zero wrong with them being a part of it.
Why? and we are starting fresh, adding something like this that was actually part of the game back then has ZERO effect on anything.
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Um yes, it is new yes, but it is still WoW.
well no, that is my point, the CE pets have always been an account wide thing, every other pet did not become that way until they added collections later, thats why I said I don’t know if internally if that flag is different between the two.
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Well, like i said, i’d be happy to settle with him on a single character on classic, but he does belong.
Keep him one character only for all i care, but once the vanilla CE pets were put in Murky owners should have been given the green light that he’d re-join them in vanilla/classic too.
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I’ll be happy if I can get a Haunted Momento from the Naxx phase whenever it happens.
That’s the only pet I want.
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That would be something, but correct me if i’m wrong but wasn’t that from the pre wotlk event? I may be mistaken. I have it on my warlock but i admit i don’t exactly 100% remember where.
If it was from original naxx event, i’d love it to return too!
But that’s tomorrow’s fight my friend, today is about our lil friend Murky!
#ClassicMurky
It also has zero effect in giving it to new players for buying the current CE or going to the next Blizzcon. It’s just bits. The reward was the experience getting it back in Vanilla. Keeping it from new players who didn’t even know about it is just a continuation of what makes retail so hard to play. Exclusivity is not a measure of someones worth.
But I think if it does matter, then all of the other pets, pieces of gear, and titles that were earned in game matter just as much as someone paying money for a pay to win pet. And obviously we aren’t adding all of that back. So the logical conclusion here is they should just leave the external rewards out of the game and make everyone earn their stuff back on a completely level footing day 1.
So make the vanilla CE pets available with my Classic WoW CE by that logic.
We have already had the precedent set, and it is not the path you want it to be.
Blizz gave vanilla CE pets their original pets, Murky owners deserve their lil guy too.
ps - yes it does devalue it completely by giving it away again. Completely. It’s why they don’t have all the old blizzcon items available on the store.
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The game isn’t even out yet. There is no precedent set. The point of Forum posts like this is to try to sway Blizzard by providing feedback that what they are doing isn’t right.
Only if the people who went to Blizzcon think their entire experience was measured by a digital pet. You got the value that you paid for when you attended the conference and got to enjoy the pet in retail for the past seven expansions. What your asking for is an extra reward on top of the one you were given.
The undead invasion circles happened during both Naxx 40 and WOTLK.
They just bumped up the ilvl of the armor sets a bit for the WOTLK prepatch. And the WOTLK event had extras added like poisoned crates and the attack on Stormwind Harbor.
The Haunted Momento tokens dropped during both, but Blizzard eventually nerfed them later on.
May as well reprint the 94 supra, or the 67 corvette sting ray, and put every single blizzcon pet ever on the store too. /eyeroll.
You are wrong on this one, and YES the precedent was set the minute vanilla CE pets were included (but not in the classic wow CE)
At that point, Murky should be included in classic as well as the vanilla CE and both separate from any future rewards.
and it being a part of the Vanilla experience for those that had it.
Lol what? Exclusitivity was HUGE in Vanilla, we gatekeeped like crazy then too.
No one is tieing it to anyones ‘worth’ that is just being silly, will only some people get these pets? Well yes, it is a nice bonus to those who supported the game back then as well.
What? None of that has any relevance here, they are adding something that actually existed in the game from 1.1 to 1.12. PTW pet? lol no such thing.
Lol not even a little bit, the game is still WoW, it is a recreation of Vanilla and the experience , putting something in that was IN the game back then is what is truly logical.
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Ahh k. My old vanilla warlock has it, but honestly could have got it on either/or i don’t know which. TYVM. I honestly couldn’t remember which it was
It’s hard to describe it in english…cause you only use the word “same” for both meanings…in german we have 2 different words for it… “dasselbe” and “gleich”.
I don’t know if it would be clear to describe it as “identical” vs. “same”…or as “same” vs “similar” or something.
The difference is:
1 = “two Objects are semantically or by other (defined or implicit) rules equivalent, without actually being physically the same object.”
2 = “physically the same object”
But it is , by the same rules we have tried to use since they announced Classic , no changes, everything that was in 1.1-1.12 is fair game.
yah so we should just not do Classic then either by that logic, since we got our experience back then when we bought Vanilla.
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Regardless of if he feels it should be a clean slate in the pet department, ALL OF HIS ARGUMENT goes out the window the second the Vanilla CE pets were included.
At that point, Murky owners should be right to ask “why not Murky?” too since he was equally as iconic in vanilla and could easily be included to those who own him (since blizz has him linked to account now, so they at least know and could limit it to 1 per classic/server)
There is no reason for Murky to be left out now since vanilla CE are in.
There have been dozens of threads on this, and they will likely continue until blizz just comes out and acknowledges he’ll be in for the account owners. Plz
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Cool, lol. Thanks I guess?
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Again, the game isn’t released yet. There’s also plenty of precedent that Blizzard will listen and decide not to include the pet.
At the end of the day I feel like you’re primary motivation is to get your pet, which I understand is a personal thing for you. I’m looking at this from the perspective of someone who doesn’t care that much about the pet, but wants Classic to be the best it can be. Releasing these rewards might be good for the small number of people that had them, but it’s not going to be fair, and it’s not going to attract new players to try classic. It’s actually de-motivational to hand out new rewards to the same set of people over and over again rather than letting everyone have a chance to experience everything that’s going to go in Classic. At the end of the day we should try to minimize the amount of pay to win features and make people earn every item they get in classic from a clean slate.
the code doesn’t get added to your account like a CE the code ONLY gets you the pet.
I think you’re totally misguided on this issue @azgorath, and i think the precedent i’m talking about was set when the vanilla CE pets were included (but not included with the sold Classic WoW CE). At that point, the distinction that Vanilla pets like vanilla CE and Murky were both included, and kept to those original owners.
Again, if the vanilla CE pets weren’t included i’d totally get it and would accept it as it was but how can you include A from vanilla but tell B owners to kick rocks? It doesnt make sense, and just comes off kinda mean spirited on Blizzard’s part. Picking favorites.
That said, we can agree to disagree and i hope you have a wonderful day. Take care. I hope to see you in Classic, and hope to show you Murky then! have a good night man
#ClassicMurky.
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