Ah, isn’t it selfish to want to keep a vanity reward you already got to have in the retail in a separate game that no one knew about at the time? I think all of the limited time stuff should be left out. I agree that Blizzard isn’t making any sense with their current decision. Either bring back all the rewards or none at all. This seems like a bad management decision to make the collector’s edition some sort of Holy Grail.
Yes it is selfish, but i can admit that but it also means more to me than you because i drove cross country to Blizzcon to support them back in 05. I deserve to have that pet be kept distinct. May as well make every Blizzcon pet available on the blizzard store with that logic. Come on, man.
Answer me this… WHY the Vanilla CE pets but not Murky when both are EQUALLY rare and expensive in 2019? You’d have an easier time finding an unscratched Murky than vanilla CE tbh. Once vanilla CE pets were included, there is zero logical argument anymore for Murky owners not to receive their little guy again in classic.
That said, i understand that you’d want him (although not in classic because no new pets, remember?) but i’d love for them to make “Old Man Murky” at this years blizzcon, or a future one where he has a beard and a cane and dances until his back aches and he just grumbles to a stop.
Like i said, if the vanilla CE pets weren’t included i’d have been like “ok, tough luck Murky” but now i can’t think of a single reason to include A but leave B out when both were in the same damn vanilla game.
not really, the Vanilla CE pets and Murky were part of 1.1-1,12 and part of some peoples Vanilla experience, so letting those be part of it makes perfect sense.
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That would be a Theseus’ ship discussion…
People have already pointed out that it’s a slippery slope argument though. If you add back in one pet, you have to add them all back in. Which I think makes very good sense.
I also believe, however, that Classic is a distinct game. The rewards that were earned were paid out in retail, and are exclusive on retail. Giving out the pets via new events would not diminish their exclusivity in the game they were earned for. To be authentic to the true classic experience, they would have been earned at the time for buying a collectors edition and going to Blizzcon, which people can do right now with the 15th anniversary and this years con, that would more closely resemble the events of the time. But I could also see why this is just the start of such rewards and it’s actually safer to just not put any of them in the game and leave the real world exclusive in the game they were earned for.
Again, that argument went out the window with the vanilla CE pets being included.
All of that went out the door the minute the vanilla CE pets were included but not Murky.
That said, i keep bringing up a middle ground for you to maybe re-use the model as an “old man murky” as a 15th or 20th anniversary blizzcon reward with a beard and a cane etc. That would be cute.
That said, 05 Murky belongs in classic. Period. no two ways about it. The moment vanilla CE pets were put in, Murky should have been as well.
#ClassicMurky
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But it isn’t a slippery slope at all, that is just people who like to fearmonger say. These pets were part of Vanilla 1.1 to 1.12, they were very much a part of some peoples experience, so al they are adding is just those pets.
It is and it isn’t, it is still a recreation of Vanilla and the Vanilla experience.
they are not diminished by any of this, nothing can take away the fact that I got them back then.
Yah, but no, there is no reason to have to go that far.
They were earned in WoW, it is perfectly in line with keeping with the recreation to have the expansion specific pets available in the expansions they existed in.
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The real question, do original vanilla players get to redeem their turtle mounts in classic?
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it might be a but more tricky to do him maybe.
turtle mounts were a pre-tbc TCG item. Sadly, my TCG items won’t be joining me in classic nor should they. As much as i’d like them, they don’t really belong.
Murky, and the Vanilla CE pets DO belong though. They were a part of the original vanilla experience, and are the most iconic pets of the vanilla game. Murky should be in for those who have him.
#ClassicMurky
Blizz, end the silence!
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If you were truly able to redeem before they had the system as I have read about, where you put in your code on site then had to go to BB, but I have not been able to find evidence that this was ever the case that they were obtainable before all of that.
So they should go far enough that you get an experience that is suitable to you? That’s the issue with these arguments. You can’t recreate every single persons Vanilla experience, because you can’t rewind time. Somewhere they have to draw the line. Therefore, the limited time rewards should go out of fairness.
Not really because he’s tied to the account. We/blizz know exactly who does/doesn’t have him as it is legit an account wide pet and achievement in WoW currently (meaning we know who has him)
They can make him have a (Warning only one per server or classic choose wisely. are you really sure?) thing and that’s fine. That isn’t all THAT much different than the vanilla CE since they can only choose 1 of the 3 i believe.
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Lol not just me, the thousands of others who also this applies to.
But you can in this case without going against adding something that was not in Vanilla. That’s where the line clearly is, it was IN Vanilla.
Lol why? Just because you did not have them, no one should, even though they were actually part of Vanilla?
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By your OWN words, should they go that far to give you the experience that’s suitable to you?
Don’t be so selfish.
Fact is vanilla CE pets were included. Give me a logical reason Murky shouldn’t be as well.
If vanilla CE weren’t included, i would kinda just accept total clean slate but adding A and telling B owners to basically kick sand is outrageous.
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Well not originally though, not sure if the account flag is different for all the pets that are not CE pets.
Because that would set a precedent that every TCG, limited time event, CE, and Blizzcon reward has to be added back into the game as they were released. In the long term were Classic might lead us back into TBC and onward, that’s just not going to work.
Also pragmatically it’s a new game, and the whole point is that we are starting fresh, which means people should also start with fresh rewards. Any achievements earned through in or out of game actions should not be included.
originally or not is a moot point in some way tho because blizzard knows behind the scenes who has him to the account or not.
The vanilla CE have a “pick one of 3” thing; no reason Murky couldn’t be available one per server or for classic as a whole.
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So…it is Plus and Minus simultaneously? Of course not.
It would set NO precedent at all because this is classic it is ONLY a recreation of vanilla. TCG items (sad as they are for me to lose) don’t belong in classic because they weren’t in vanilla.
MURKY and the VANILLA CE were. That’s the difference, and the moment vanilla CE pets were included Murky should have been given the green light as well.
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