If classic+ adds a new island with 10 levels it's dead on arrival

Adorable.

/pat

I don’t need to do a scientific survey to have an informed opinion about a video game I’ve played for 20 years.

You won’t because I literally couldn’t care less how much you play classic or don’t play classic.

We were talking about Classic+ and whether or not it should have class changes. Nobody cares if you play classic or how much you play it. It doesn’t matter to anyone besides you.

So that seething mad comment was projection then? I mean I already knew it was but thanks for the confirmation.

That doesn’t have anything to do with you proving your claim to us. We simply dismiss you because you can’t.

That’s why you keep replying to me, typing 1000mph with sweaty palms because your claim can’t stick

I expected this. It’s called soft concession.

I won. Thanks for playing.

The winner is me.

The loser is you, because your still projecting on a forum of a game you don’t play.

The level of hypocrisy and projection in your posts is amusing.

I don’t have to prove anything to you, it’s only in your own mind that that’s a thing that needs to happen.

You need help, but I still can’t give it to you.

Even if I didn’t play classic I have more than enough experience from real vanilla to comment on it, though I did try classic and also have a level 58 hardcore character for even more recent experience to base my opinion on.

Didn’t read a single word.

They’re never putting in vulpera death knights or robot gnome hunters in classic

I’m just farming you for content at this point

el oh el

It really seems hopeless trying to get players like that to understand that many are happy there are differing choices and homogenization isn’t needed or wanted.
Sad.

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Yeah. It’s like someone coming to your house to visit but they actually just start telling you how you should rearrange your furniture and how you should paint your walls.

It’s like bruh

Any askers?

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It’s hopeless trying to get this orc or troll to understand the actual point in the thread and that it has nothing to do with classic players who enjoy classic as it is. Nobody cares that you play classic and nobody is trying to stop you from playing it.

It’s further hopeless to get the big mad orc to understand that I literally stated multiple times I had no data but still believed my statement was accurate (and it more than likely is). He then nerd raged for several posts about it while insisting he had won an argument that mostly took place in his own mind.

Elegance doesn’t come from a giant mess, it comes from simple foundations that allows players to creatively engage.

Era has that beauty.

You made no point as I said.

You made a claim and didn’t support it with valid evidence

I don’t even know why you’re still responding tbh

You aren’t gaining any ground and you don’t even play classic nor do we care if you do or not

Classic+ would appeal mostly to people who want something more from older WoW than what exists in classic as it is, it wouldn’t be meant to appeal to classic purists who want to replay a museum piece forever.

I don’t think classic class design allows anyone to creatively engage at all.

:mirror:

Zug Zug big mad Zug

You’re seething.

I already won

You don’t know what classic + is

Nobody does

We know

and yet you chose to engage in a thread about a theoretical concept while not being able to imagine it.

A wise Monk once said, “if you have to declare yourself a winner, you’ve likely not won anything at all.”

:joy:

Your original comment was not theoretical. You presented the opinion as proof.

Then went off on a tangent about reaching a wider audience. Absolutely zero people asked for that.

Classic+ would be a game that would want to appeal to a larger audience than just classic purists.

Most WoW players do not prefer vanilla class design. While I can’t point you to a survey to prove this to you little orc, I am very confident that it is true based on not being in a classic bubble and 20 years of WoW experience. I’m sorry if it bothers you that the majority don’t like your favorite version as much as you do (though you at one point acknowledged this was the case and said you didn’t care, but then when back to denying it was the case).

Evidence? What wow director told you this.

Where did you get this information from specifically

Never said everyone had to like classic wow. If you don’t like it don’t play it. You have other versions of wow to play. I don’t like retail. I’m not on their forums parading for them to change it to my liking. Retail players like retail. And we like our version.

Classic is a game that doesn’t need a gigantic player base to be good.

You can have a server with 1k players and you’ll be able to have a good time

You’re asking me why a business would want a new product to appeal to a larger audience than the classic purist audience which makes up a tiny percentage of the current WoW playerbase (which is a statistic fact based on population and not an opinion)?

I don’t need to prove water is wet.

Where did you get your information from?

They’re relaunching a seasonal when its participation was exceedingly low. They didn’t cut seasons because of it.

Blizzard doesn’t need wow to make money. Candy crush dwarfs its netting and it’s not even close

Retail players will stay subbed no matter what.

Classic players will not

You’re trying so hard to avoid using critical thinking skills and common sense and I don’t know why.

I’ll lay it out for you as simply as I can.

We’re talking about a theoretical new game version that doesn’t exist and hasn’t been announced.

If said thing were to actually exist, it would certainly involve class changes because they’d want their new thing to appeal to more than the classic purist playerbase that may not even want to play it in the first place and may instead continue playing in their classic era servers nobody is trying to take from you.

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That’s not all that’s required to provide proof of something. Critical thinking alone isn’t enough. It’s just a tool.

The fact of the matter is you have yet to prove ONE single claim in this entire thread.

The more you post, the more ludicrous you look

I don’t think you even believe classic design is the most popular class design in the history of the game, you’re just constantly asking me to prove that it’s not because you have no real point to make about class design.

If vanilla class design was considered the best by the majority, you’d see a lot more classic era players than you do. You wouldn’t have seen in real vanilla the number of complaints about it as there were and you’d see a lot of people playing WoW asking for it back.

It will never stop amusing me that someone who responds in less than a minute to posts wrote this in the same thread. Thank you for that at least.