Separate accounts, never banned for his actions, celebrated by Blizzard/immortalized in game with an NPC in MoP over his activities… but yeah clearly “bannable offense”
So he only has to be victimized by the system enough times with squelches that the GMs finally get sick of responding to the tickets…
We both know that’s a really stupid system.
Cross faction cooperation happened all the time. Remember the old pally vs shaman PvP battles? Those required cooperation.
Not the same thing since they were fighting each other. Even having an alt on the opposite faction to bypass the language filter is bannable.
Okay and during bc opening when my server got top leaders on both sides to enforce a truce so people could level after 5 hours straight of PvP at the gate? That wasn’t cooperation?
I have zero compassion for anyone who makes themselves notorious in such a manner. Zero.
This is the same community who supports blacklisting players and ignoring them for “not being part of the community” because they are behaving badly and squelch any efforts of their own but when there’s a possibility of an actual in-game consequence for being ostracized and singled out for their behavior, suddenly, it’s all “we can’t allow this to happen, it will ruin Classic!”
What’s the difference between you turning your back on a player and trying to convince everyone else that guy should be shunned and right-click reporting them?
Abuse is abuse, whether it’s on the players initiative as part of a community, or if it’s an individual attempting to extort other players for gold, or if it’s players taking advantage of a system in the game that allows them to ignore a player and throw them into a system where their behavior might just get checked.
You seem confused:
Zero people are against GMs being able to hand out punishments, bans, silences, etc… People are against PLAYERS being able to issue a fairly severe punishment in game to other players…
Furthermore, a squelch is actually significantly worse than a blacklist in a Vanilla era environment, and a significantly harsher punishment in a Classic world, than it is in the modern retail client world, which is part of the reasoning for concern.
Blacklists, are an entirely separate issue that arises out of vanilla having an actual server community where reputation matters, and absolutely none of the cross realm tech to hide behind. Unless you plan on pretending like you would ever group up again with a known loot ninja, like that Aehl troll in the other thread, you are also going to be “blacklisting” people in Classic, and would also be doing it on retail if not for personal loot/xrealm tech making it a non factor.
I can’t resist…
Coming from the guy complaining about his tea party getting crashed for like 2 months because of a community organized event celebrating classic WoW. Its too much. You’re throwing a hissy fit, demanding people show YOU compassion but don’t hesitate to type stuff like this.
The forums truly are more entertaining than the current expansion.
The answer is self evident. The fact that you don’t see what it is should clue you in to your willful ignorance.
His facts don’t care about your feelings. It’s a fact that the statistic being used is an extremely common talking point for white supremacists
You are mistaken again. I never mentioned what GMs can do or would do, though, GMs are intended to review the reports. When they can get around to them. It might be some time before anything happens - minutes, hours, even days.
Again, I don’t have your problems with this, and you certainly aren’t considering that other people are going to do what people do, and that is to work against other players. This is the whole point of PvP - be it direct gameplay, or politicking between the same faction on the same server.
The biggest problem here is that people like you believe that Classic is going to have a lower threshold than retail because there’s no CRZ or there’s more people.
Again, these are tools that I want as my part of my gameplay, because Vanilla completely lacked a meaningful way of combatting the problems I faced in Vanilla, and it actually affected my gameplay.
And that is a good thing. Maybe it’s bad for you, but those are not my problems.
Number one, people have to know who that person is in order to “Squelch” them - you want to build notoriety, that’s fine. A GM might review your actions and see if you deserve an actual ban or punishment. They might not.
Number two, Classic isn’t going to be different in that regard from Retail. Despite the argument, Blizzard is rather lenient to a fault. You really have to do something pretty egregious to be properly banned by them, and even reporting takes quite a few tries in actual practice.
Your reputation only matters when you have a closed community. Despite arguments about communities where your reputation mattered, people are going to be people, and they are going to ignore warnings about other people - either because they believe in second chances, or don’t pay attention, or think that anyone else is really just trying to cause drama.
In any system where you don’t have all the information, when there are too many people for you to keep track, your blacklist will be useless. The human mind can only remember so many people, and there are a fixed number of ignore slots. Even addons that keep track of players and notes won’t be enough to keep up with the sheer number of people, even on Classic.
Are you seriously suggesting official crime stats from the FBI is white supremacist propaganda? With asinine logic like that water and air are racist because racists breathe and drink water. Grow up…
It’s a fact that the statistic is an extremely common talking point espoused by white supremacists. That’s all I said. And I’m not wrong. Not my fault you’re triggered. You mad bro?
Its also a fact racist people breathe. Its an idiotic point.
Youre mad bro
Am I? Thousands of people were not happy. And it sounds like you’re the same kind of person who was probably partaking because you don’t think of anyone else. And that did quite a lot of damage, turned a lot of people against “celebrants” who were not engaging or celebrating with anyone else other than other people from those streamers.
I’m sorry, but this is exactly why right-click report exists. You, Powerbottom-zuljin, are the exact reason why and why it needs to remain in Classic. You would become the tourist that Classic fans don’t want in their game.
One more time: Engadget’s WoW Archivist: Class protests and the Million Gnome March.
It didn’t stop during Vanilla, it was a regular event from that point on. Every tuesday, then every time a PVP server crashed, it would be hundreds of Pvp kiddies who think they’re original and come to spam and troll.
Are all the people liking the OP joining him in his refusal to play Classic? Or is this just another whiny bluff?
I honestly can’t wait till Classic comes out and all the good friends I’ve made on this forum try to report “punish” me.
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I have no plans to report anyone on these forums in Classic wow.
Just because I disagree with a view point does not mean they deserve to be reported.
Except they already have your $15 a month from paying retail. Whether you play or not doesn’t factor in till you completely stop paying them.
I thought the whole point of vanilla was the community policing itself? by making sure to blackmail ninja’s and whitelist good players…
So why do you want blizz to step in, instead of letting the vanilla playerbase deal with other vanilla players?
Maybe don’t talk political in trade chat and you won’t get auto muted?
The fact is that ninjaing is pretty black and white.
When people have already admitted they plan to report people on subjective content, that’s a huge difference.
and if people spam silence reports, you do know their “power” is taken away right?