If auto-silence is in classic i wont be buying it

Studmuffyn-veknilash · February 7, 2019, 1:45am

? phone typing?

Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel · February 7, 2019, 1:45am

And just because you haven’t seen an argument made doesn’t mean that argument hasn’t been made

Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel · February 7, 2019, 1:45am

Yes unfortunately speech-to-text sucks

Missuspowpow-proudmoore · February 7, 2019, 1:46am

I understand that you think it’s “outrage culture in action” to say that it’s racist to cite literal white supremacists who want to demonize black people. That’s why there is no conversation to be had. People like you will never honestly self-reflect, and will always get ‘triggered’ when your bullhorn gets taken away.

That’s why the answer is to squelch you and move on.

Zisifar-argent-dawn · February 7, 2019, 1:47am

Citation Needed

Is replying to bait inherently bad? It probably is. I should know better.

Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel · February 7, 2019, 1:48am

Those stats also come from the fbi fyi. Funny how you automatically assumed though that whoever got them, got them from a website most have probably never heard of.

Powerbottom-zuljin · February 7, 2019, 1:49am

So, the FBI are literal white supremacists? Seriously?

Can’t converse with someone so foolish they have convinced themself they are correct no matter what.

I self reflect all the time. You know nothing about me and you assuming that you do just further displays your VAST ignorance.

Missuspowpow-proudmoore · February 7, 2019, 1:50am

Type into google “stormfront black crime statistics” and click on the first link. You will see people saying basically the same thing as the people I’m arguing with. Then google “what is stormfront?” to confirm they are, in fact, the largest white supremacist site on the internet.

Zisifar-argent-dawn · February 7, 2019, 1:51am

I’m sure Antifa would support your interest in squelching discussion.

Powerbottom-zuljin · February 7, 2019, 1:52am

Or use your brain and look at FBI official reports on crime stats. But that wouldn’t support your crazy narrative that everyone that isn’t an extreme leftist is a racist, right?

Missuspowpow-proudmoore · February 7, 2019, 1:52am

Google “FBI response to the Civil Rights Movement” for the answer to your questions.

Powerbottom-zuljin · February 7, 2019, 1:53am

Azeroth ANTIFA unite! #Resist

Zisifar-argent-dawn · February 7, 2019, 1:55am

History 307: Chapter 6 / Lesson 3
Don’t you have an exam to study for? I know being at university is empowering but the rest of the world operates differently.

Manzo-argent-dawn · February 7, 2019, 1:56am

Good for you, but again, you aren’t speaking from experience, just your limited personal opinion.

The issue, again, was the flood of players, far beyond your handful that you think you’re going to contend with.

See: Vanilla’s Warrior protest. Just see Engadget’s archive of “WoW Archivist: Class protests and the Million Gnome March”

See: Project 60 and how they invaded RP realms and caused dramatic server disruption.

The fact that you brush this sort of thing off as “just trade chat” shows that you aren’t seeing the actual damage this sort of thing can cause.

You don’t have a clue how RP servers work if that is what you think of them. If you don’t think an extra thousand players on your server doesn’t affect the servers stability when even a tenth of them are spamming, then you really haven’t thought any argument you have.

Åpocalypse-illidan · February 7, 2019, 1:59am

It doesn’t even require coordination… See the below example:

Automated Bans will slowly destroy Classic

Now let’s look at a vanilla example… A friend of mine, and a server legend on Stonemaul in vanilla, who ended up passing IRL in Cata: The Shadowpriest Booms.

Booms’s method of making himself (in)famous in vanilla was by becoming the Pirate king of Menethil. He was a Horde Shadowpriest in one of the most accomplished guilds, spent most of his free time sitting on the menethil boat, next to his secondary account’s alliance character named Boomsbot.

Boomsbot’s job was simple… Everyone who wanted to take the boat, had to pay his alliance character a toll, or walk the plank (he spoke in pirate speak the entire time)… He was successful enough at this, for it to allegedly become his primary form of in game gold farming. If you didn’t pay, you got MCd off the boat into fatigue waters until you did. He was ruthless at this…

and he was a LEGEND on the server because of it… He had friends in numerous top horde guilds who would come join in on the fun/get his back if alliance tried to group to take him down, but for the most part he simply became a fixture of every day life for the Alliance there…

I want to be very clear about this… Booms did nothing wrong, and was never once banned for these actions, in fact, Booms was CELEBRATED by both the Stonemaul community in general, and even by Blizzard itself, when he was immortalized as an NPC after his IRL death. https://www.wowhead.com/npc=68985/booms

Now put this same exact situation in the modern right click report/squelch system… Every person Boomsbot talked to probably right clicks his name and reports… It doesn’t matter one damn bit that this is a player that Blizzard themselves celebrate in memorial in game… He’s getting squelched.

He’s now being punished for doing nothing wrong with constant squelches. Moreover, to your assertion that the people reporting him would get banned for causing an inappropriate squelch… ask yourself if they really would? Most of the people reporting him might have even thought that they where doing the right thing in reporting his behavior. Are they punished for trying to use the system honestly? Now what if some people just see him there and spam report him because they don’t like him… How can you possibly differentiate between the reports made in good faith and the reports made in bad faith. Just how much GM time are you now requiring for each and every report to determine intent?

Zero coordination required, but Boomsbot is getting reported by everyone his alliance character tries to extort for “tribute” and likely near constant squelches, for doing absolutely nothing wrong in game. It’s a broken system.

Missuspowpow-proudmoore · February 7, 2019, 2:02am

Playing both sides on a PvP server is a bannable offense. Good try though.

Defac-aegwynn · February 7, 2019, 2:02am

Apocalypse this has been discussed in other threads. People who repeatedly get targeted by this can get their account marked so they can’t be auto squelched. All reports get reviewed by gm to determine if it’s harassment or valid.

Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel · February 7, 2019, 2:03am

On one account? Yes. On two no.

Powerbottom-zuljin · February 7, 2019, 2:05am

So? The problem is any system that auto silences, bans, locks etc. BEFORE human inspection. Its always an issue, this will not be different.

Blizz re-inventing the CS wheel to save a few bucks and pass along the headaches to the players is not something that should be implemented.

Missuspowpow-proudmoore · February 7, 2019, 2:06am

Cross-faction cooperation of any kind is a bannable offense. You’re thinking of multiboxing.