Vocal enough to warrant a reaction when plans were still in flux and there was an actual possibility of change. Outside of a few posters, no one really cared about the limited transmog. Others still were placated by Ion stating that they’d “do more” with Evoker tier sets - something that never materialized.
Now? You can’t mention the race without near-universal protestation of this inadequacy. But this is too little, too late, I fear. It would be difficult to justify dedicating notable development to a feature from a previous expansion.
In an ideal world, you could transmog nearly every slot on the true form, do separate transmog for each form, and even just roll a Drakonid instead of your draconic tastes are a little more martial. But now that Dragonflight has passed? Those opportunities have passed, regardless of current public sentiment.
So you knew about Dracthyrs during the development stage back during late BFA-early SL?
… yeah, Dracthyrs weren’t going to get more transmog options in that sense because of what they wanted to do with the race. This idea that you, and many others, have in regards to the “reason” or “plausibility” of changing this was and have always been a near 0% probability of ever happening.
Never existed in the first place.
The very appeal of Dracthyrs is in part the Dracthyr form, which was built with the idea of pushing customizability to the utmost degree possible. If you want transmog options on top of that, you get a few pieces you can play around with but not more than that.
If this is something that you consider as important as you claim it is, your only option is to play a different race.
I still dont care about their limitations. The allure of Dracthyr are their racials and unique visage customization options.
Once they unlock for other classes, I have no reason to ever be a dragon for more than a few seconds. I think Blizz knew this, and is the reason they gave us the ability to revert back to visage form automatically
Just popping in to say I very clearly recall a ton of people making post after post about the limited transmog, and how we could only do the shoulders and belt and weapon and that was it. The forums exploded with it, and from my perspective it wasn’t just a few people saying it. That said, I thought we would AT LEAST get more barbershop transmog updates during DF…but alas, we did not.
Sadly I hate the visage forms, so I never, ever use them on my two evokers and won’t on my future mage either and IF I ever make a hunter, won’t on that either, hideous, lol.
But if Blizz lets them keep double jump and glide when they open up classes, the Drakthyr population is going to explode.
Visage form and racials will he the primary drivers.
I would bet very few people actually want to play a “dragon”. I mean, in WoW, monster races are pretty unpopular overall. With visage, you can play a monster race while pretending you dont
Oh-kay. Congratulations.
Now make the transmog fit onto Dracthyrs without implementing en masse a huge number of fixes to the Dracthyr model or the armour models.
A technical limitation is trying to increase our bagspace when that’s hardcoded into the game. A design choice to give Dracthyr the customization options that they have without having armour fitted to it, that’s also a limitation.
I said “plausibility” and “probability”, not “possibility.”
They would have to go back and make Dracthyrs able to wear armour in the first place, and then make it work with each of Dracthyr’s customization options, and then they’d have to make sure each piece of equipment that didn’t fit onto their body in a natural good looking sense was redesigned to fit onto their bodies.
So no, it never existed specifically because they were designed to not wear armour like other races. Technical limitations doesn’t have anything to do with this.
I wouldn’t mind being a dragon in combat but dear god the transmog is terrible. I just hide belt and shoulders but then in visage form you look goofy too. One of the main reasons I don’t play one.
The only reason I would ever use the visage is to serve as a glorified mannequin for my transmog, as Dracthyr are locked out of the whole part of the game otherwise. If I could engage with the system in the true form, I would never touch the visage form again.
Looking over a Dracthyr, I assume head, wings, hands, and butt will be the toughest for textures to fit without stretching. Might be able to survive as the male pandaren has a similar problem.
If they can do Tauren helmets, they can certainly do Dracthyr. That being said, there are three compromises I would be open to:
Minimal missing slots (ie. feet, cloak)
Only modelled geometry shows on Dracthyr - no “painted on” textures
Evoker tier unlocks barbershop appearances (across all classes)
The tragedy of Dracthyr is that, although they have the best customization in the game at creation, customization virtually ends at creation. In a modern MMO, transmog is the endgame. And Dracthyr are effectively locked out from it. Having Blood Elf and Human mannequins available is not an equitable solution to this issue.
I understand that there are others that have different motivations, but I play the dragon race to play as a dragon. I have no interest in humans or elves. Likewise, I play as the dragon class to play as a dragon. There are multiple other classes to play if you want to be a human/elf caster or healer.
I truly do not understand the draw to either the race or the class if not accompanied by the desire to play as a dragon. If you just want to play as an elf caster or whatever, there are so many options out there.
I honestly don’t think their dragon form is that bad even with lack of mogs… I just can’t stand to look at their visage even if it’s just in character creation skin haha.
i like the entirely unique gameplay. i like the idea of a sorcerer using the magics of the five flights. the dracthyr models are not widely popular, though they’re also not unpopular. but good luck selling someone on the idea of ‘dragon fantasy’ when the models look silly and transmog will not fix them. when i am in visage form, i have horns, i have scales, i have a reptilian nose. this is draconic enough for me, certainly more than other races can provide. why is what’s sufficient for me a problem for someone else?
While this is certainly the most lucid explanation I’ve received, it still remains rather incongruous with the actual class design (thematically, if not mechanically), given how integrated the uniquely draconic biology is with their abilities. Flight, breath weapons, the tail swipe… all are inherent to the class, and it would feel rather odd to ignore that biology as an Evoker that is not a Dracthyr in their true form.
I think rolling out the race to other classes is just going to highlight how silly it will be, given that all these newly-minted Dracthyr are going to be “ignoring” a lot of their inherent biology and talents.
That being said… I can see the appeal of an equivalent to a draconic bloodline sorcerer. But Dracthyr aren’t that: they are a type of dragon.
And that being said… it isn’t uncommon for dragons to hide their heritage and masquerade as different races and classes. I do think the lore behind the “locked in” visages of Dracthyr needs to be explored.
After all that has happened of late, I do believe Blizzard is completely capable of changing how Dracthyr transmog works. We just have to keep being vocal to get what we want. We have to scream at them in every post, “Hey!! Us dracthyr players still want to be able to transmog our two forms seperately!!!” or something like this. You can’t let it go. Bellular pushing the more interesting flight mechanics and repeatedly showing the success in Gw2 is what helped give us dragon riding. It’s the youtubers and community that are what help aswell.
