I wish I could stomach retail

Of course. I’m pretty well-versed in addons, because it’s the only thing that keeps me sane in wow. Plus I like experimenting and customizing my UI, and I can understand the disdain for the new UI. Here’s some other UI addons that might help you as well incase you like these more:

ELVUI – It’s really popular, personally wasn’t my taste, but I know for a lot of people it’s their favorite.

Personally I’m a big fan of Zperl (It’s the recreation of Xperl) and Bartender mixed together, Bartender allows you to customize your bars the way you want them to be, and it can be pretty fun to work with- the snapping feature can be a lil’ hard, but it’s usually workable with. Zperl offers a really good party/raid/player/pet portrait UI that I like.

Is there a particular reason you don’t like LFG btw? Is it just because you don’t like the groups your getting into, or don’t like meeting random people? Because I know some guilds are still a thing and are willing to help players settle back into gaming at higher ends like Mythic + Raiding. ^^

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then here you go , you found your answer , now move along

It’s bizarre to me how little people seem to know about these things. Like, people are making complaints about the system based on what they wrongly think it is.

And yet they made the minimap ~20% larger and didn’t give you an option to resize.

They could have allowed us to turn the textures back on, while keeping the ability to customize the UI. /shrug

And c’mon, a 2-3 pixel textured border around buttons didn’t take up that much space.

And what’s the excuse for monochrome menu buttons that make it difficult to see what each button is supposed to represent?

Well I think LFG is fine sitting in a finder for 2+ hours is not. In classic it’s more of just grab and go.(We take almost anyone) But in retail with IO and stuff like achieves it feels super drawn out cause of the gates.

I liked it better when I got badges to choose what piece(s) of gear I was going to get, though.

I liked getting badges and then going up to an NPC and going “OK, I need this piece more than anything right now”.

And even then, once you gear up, you run out of reasons to do heroics. I remember back in MoP, I’d do Timeless Isle and 1 heroic per day until I capped badges for weeks, it kept me running dungeons, to get my gear and then get the upgrades n stuff for said gear. It was fun.

It’s very poorly explained but not actually that complex when you start engaging with it, thankfully I still remember doing my tbc attunement quests…

I only found out you could make enchanted whelpling crests to upgrade non spark crafting items to 408 like 2 weeks ago.

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Off-topic I know.

I just want to say you genuinely seem like an awesome person lol. I know I personally struggle with anxiety so I struggle getting into LFG’s + high end content because of it, and it’s people like you that have helped me learn the game + do better. I hope you continue having an awesome time gaming. ^^

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I think this is the major thing lacking, but I would also point out that the badge vendors only covered 3-4 relevant item slots per class. Rng as a sole source of ilvl isnt fun though.

Crafting is a bit of a thing to get your head around at first but it does an excellent job offering a deterministic reward structure that covers all item slots, even weapons.

Once again thank you for this map addon recommendation.

Ah! Okay! That’s understandable, some of the que times can be pretty atrocious, is there a particular thing you’re queing for that’s been bad? Maybe an old LFR to try and get gear, or a random Dungeon on varying difficulties? Because part of the problem that can lead to sitting in que’s for long times is often just trying to do slightly older content.

If you need something to help try and pass the time, maybe whilst queing do some world-quests/dailies, and such? ^^ I find that it usually helps me get through those agonizing queue times. If you have friends that you can play with, maybe ask them to try & help you out with it?

And there’s still the problem with the sour playerbase wanting to speedrun everything, esp. the dungeons where players discovered janky skips involving terrain.

Somehow, spending 10 seconds to kill a pack of trash is worse than spending 30+ seconds figuring out how to clamber up on a pile of rocks only to have one person slip, fall, let them die, kick them and then wait for the LFG system to fill the party back in.

I think I see the issue now.

Were you doing Lfr for last tiers raid, because your ilvl out of the gate at 70 was too low to queue for the current one?

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It was for a mythic +2 but do people not run the old LFRs? Should I bother queuing?

Could try Qing and see what the average wait time is. IMO, 20+ minutes is a hard pass.

But then I am spoiled by FFXIV, where your wait times are almost never more than 5-10 minutes.

People don’t run old lfrs, no. What ilvl is the character you’ve spent most time on at 70? I don’t blame you for feeling a bit lost honestly.

Oh gosh I wanna say 390 something? I could look when I get home.

Oh there’s still people that do to an extent, it just takes a bit longer because a lot more people are queing for the current LFR’s.

However! Maybe you hit a time that wasn’t high-traffic for WoW? Mid-day is usually when most people are raiding & running mythics! :slight_smile:

That is a real thing I work overnights so I am sure I miss peaks.

With the catalyst opening up for S1 items next week most will stop. People run old lfr for transmog and maybe rasz for the dragonriding skin.

I should really write up a guide to week 1 gearing a fresh character without carries / boosts…

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