I Was Wrong

Are you suggestion this on every single player interaction i have to write up a report card?

If you wished to report then yes. At the end of each dungeon you would score the group as a whole and then be prompted if any individual fell outside of that score.

That would cut down the amount of negative review bombs would it not. Which was the main problem.

So again your asking now for people to fill out a report card after every dungeon.

It would not, because once more, people on average will deliver negative reports, if your suggestion is, that the average of the group will out weight negative review bombing you would be wrong because then you would get the opposite effect where EVERYONE would end up having positive scores and none of it matters .

Because once again, most people don’t bother with those scores of groups or reviews unless they are negative. Because people are not motivated or have any reason to want to deal with them UNLESS they are for negative reason.

So what now happens to anyone’s chances of correcting negative behavior if everyone is just passing on the reviews and not caring unless they want to leave a negative one?

And now your asking for personality reports this is getting way more complicated for something taht no one needs in the game.

it’s a bunny huehue

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You don’t understand what you’re doing. By asking Blizzard to police addons, you’re setting up for a banning of use for TRP/etc addons. Because more people than not use them for deviant reasons, and they can’t all be policed.

It’s easier for Blizzard just to ban it.

I have data to prove otherwise.

https://wowrep.io/leaderboards

When asked the majority of players review other players favorably.

Indeed most people would because most people don’t engage in behavior that others find unseemly. If you require reviews to be able to post negative reviews the majority of people end up with a base line score in this case about a 3.5 some will fall higher (joining groups that need help to succeed, being knowledgeable about mechanics or where to find whatever your looking for.) and some will fall below this because people will use those limited negative reviews on things they despise.

If bob leaves 10 M+ groups in one day and he joined parties that dislike that behavior his score will indicate that.

In short you would end up with a standard bell curve

At worst it would be as you said useless. In which case I gather you would have no problem with it.

I left a +6 last week because the tank had no clue what he was doing, pulled nonstop, pulled way more trash than needed and spent the second half of the dungeon only pressing moonfire (legit, only dmg on the dps meter and it did 200dps)

He didn’t hold threat, didn’t do mechanics and we had around 50 deaths.

But the rest of the group thought he was doing amazing, had zero issues with his moonfire only rotation or his pulling a boss after a wipe before more than 1 other person was back.

I expect under this addon, I would have had 4 bad marks against my name because I didn’t want to waste 3 hours in a +6 carrying a tank who didn’t respect anyone.

And that would be the choice you made. And people who don’t like that behavior have every right to not want to join such groups.

But in this case a single instance wouldn’t cause your score to plummet. Only repeated behavior of this would. And it would only affect the score for people who care about M+ leavers. For people who don’t your score wouldn’t change at all.

Yes. A majority of reports (there are only around 20 of them) are for key leavers. And if you said something when you left, they would have labeled you toxic also

Oh…you are talking about the io addon

A quick scrape of your data has hundreds+ of people with the exact same score (3.50)

  • Where is your algorithm outlined?
  • Where is the github repo?

Anyone not scored has a 3.5 although in game it shows no score instead.

As far as I can tell its just the current middle of the bell curve.

Nor are any of these addons mine. This was a discussion about how to solve the problems the community has with such addons. And while I could develop one I’m definitely not going to take the time to do so as I have no real interest. Though I did find the problems interesting.

  • Where is your algorithm outlined?
  • Where is your github repo?

Is someone seriously pitching a closed-source, anonymous, social ranking app? If so, this app is honestly trash. There’s literally no audit on the data/method.

I’m amazed there are actually people that don’t see the problem with that.

You posted as I was editing. See above post.

As far as all of your questions. I have no idea. its in beta at the moment from what I could tell. And while I tried it there were problems with the encryption key. I haven’t used it or looked at it since then.

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Doubtful. Who’s going to verify the reports…you? Anybody can make a discord that assigns negative comments to a specific player.

Develop is different then maintain or moderate. Though again moderation with the above method should be extremely limited.

You should sell that idea to Blizzard or any other MMO company. You’ve stumbled upon something that they haven’t figured out yet lol. Report toxic behavior, actual toxic behavior, to the GM’s. You’re wasting your time.

You either hasn’t bother to read through what the proposed method would be are you don’t understand it. either way its nothing that Blizz would be interested in.

Its a way to moderate who you might find toxic and limit your exposure to them without effecting anyone else. Its similar to what youtube uses to figure out what videos to suggest based on what you’ve watched previously.

Those YouTube algorithms are a disaster lol. You’d need people to go through those reports…full time. Those people already exist. So far you’re suggesting a system that already exists. Maybe a polio vaccine should be your next project.

No they worked just fine originally it wasn’t until they started messing with them to force certain content to show up and suppress others that things went sideways.

It seems that is what most people here fear. But as long as you stand by peoples decisions to moderate themselves and the algorithm is not interfered with its a baseless worry.

But heck you could throw in a check every now and then and group them with someone the algorithm thinks they wouldn’t like. If there is then a negative review its working as intended if not then there is a problem and it needs to be fixed.