I Was Wrong

If there are set guidelines as to how to score and what represents that score then it becomes far less subjective.

For instance I just did reviews as a supervisor this week. It was my first time doing so with this system. The system has 18 different drop downs with 5 options each. I wanted to make sure that I was scoring in the same manner that other supervisors had so I checked the old reviews. Each and every single review I had done was spot on, the only changes to old reviews were where people had either improved or not improved (about a 5 percent difference.)

I really doubt they care about people saying negative things about others. Their new IO scorecard shows they encourage this type of thing.

Oh boy. It’s already starting.

“The fact you don’t just bow down and do I as say proves that you need to be controlled more!”

By all the responses defending and pushing for it? VERY. This crap spreads quick.

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Except if that guide line in any way differs from blizzard it IS objectively a wrong set of guide lines.

If in the eyes of blizzard saying such a thing is not worth of any punishment, then so too should it not be worthy of any punishment by this mod.

THis is where the problem then comes in, these mods are NOT blizzard, they do NOT have the same insight or opinion as blizzard and as such, anything that is not punishable by blizzard should not and can not be reportable or punishable by this mod, as it would imply then that these moderators some how have some higher authority of what is and is not punishable by blizzard them selves, which is impossible because they dont run the game.

Do you see the problem with that?

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The people handling reports exist to hold accountability for each other, the other alternative is community voting but that doesn’t come without it’s own drawbacks. The people come up with reports, the curators are there to make sure they are not erroneous. If you guys want to nominate trustworthy individuals to curate, I will take it. I am already working on an addition to discourage tattling or faking reports. For those who didn’t read, proof is already required in a claim.

Some like-minded people don’t want to play with a-holes and that’s what this addon is for.

Thank you for the polite discussion.

I agree and if possible there should be no moderators. Is this possible? Perhaps for the majority of interactions. By submits being limited to dropdowns with very specific criteria. But probably not entirely particularly in the case of disputes.

Perhaps these can be handed of to randomly selected players to arbitrate. This way the power is not in any individuals hands but the community itself.

Yet we do it whether we realize we do or not.

In real life we have Yelp reviews, reviews on movies, and heck even dating apps at this point are getting similar.

In WoW we often engage in discussions with guildies about how so and so sucks at this mechanic or isn’t ready for this key level. Or even just that we can’t stand them. Again its human nature, this is just sharing that info to a wider audience.

If yelp reviews are you go to source to back yourself, you picked a very very VERY bad example considering yelp has been the center of a LOT of malicious targeting of yelp reviewers and review bombing specific over things that have nothing to do with the service or product.

Yelp is HORRIBLY bias, and if this is the best ammo you have, you just shot a blank my guy.

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It’s an awful idea that’s my whole and complete feedback. I can’t even criticize it or add any suggestions. It’s totally terrible.

It is one of many some we trust others we don’t.

But even with yelp there are signs when its a review bomb and its often countered by others.

Time for someone to direct an army of bots at it to flood it with nonsense reviews. I doubt the creator will have the resources to deal with it, and it will make the whole database unusable.

And with checking IP’s and some quick scripts to determine similarities in language you can remove all those.

get real, you really can’t

at least, not without damaging actual ones

Reports aren’t added in the database how you think they are, and such an attack wouldn’t work anyways.

Lol, sure. It’s a discord server. Good luck with that.

the addon is an attack on the game, it’s offensive, it takes offensive action outside the boundaries of one’s own territory

Right and the thing there is, there is a team that is held accountable whos JOB it is to take care of that, because yelp is an established business with real repercussions if they don’t actually follow through with their moderation.

This is just a bunch of people in a discord.

You are aware that most bots are just copy and pasted reviews unless you have a database filled with hundreds or thousands of review parts and mix and match them yes, yes you can. Even then you can counter by searching string in portions.

And unless you are hacking other peoples computers, tying up your vpn, or one of a few other methods then everything will be from the same IP.

This is so easy I’m not even sure why you would suggest otherwise.

All of those ideas dont work because what you are trying to do. You are trying to establish moderation over the interactions an members of a community you do not have authority over.

You are trying to create a rating system for an individual that would only fall inline with what moderators deem to be worth of downvoting or up voting. These individuals are NOT blizzard entertainment, they do not have in their capacity any legal or moral obligation or right to say what is and is not punishable or negative.

What you are creating is a court of mob rule, where the moderators or judges of the decision are also part of the mob, because their opinions are not backed by a strict set of guide lines that can be legally aggreged upon by the creators on the product.
you are effectively trying to create the wow reporting system, run by the community, with the guidelines created by the community which are ever fluid based upon who is moderating. They dont have the authority to make that guide line, if it is anything different then what blizzard themselves put out.

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this is what they do, genius

because countries can’t prevent it, so neither can your discord of harassers

It’s toxic people like you that are the reason such an addon exist, I invite you or anyone to try and ‘flood the discord with an army of bots to disable the database’ LOL you will be very disappointed… All spam bots can be killed in two seconds, and even if reports were flooded, it wouldn’t do anything to the database.