I Was Wrong

what are you actually talking about

get out neckbeard

what are you actually talking about

look at you, all judging people’s kinks.

(I actually have no idea what you’re saying because the words you’re using make no sense)

lol you got a screen from their discord, just prove what kind of person you are, i ain’t wrong.

you mean their discord about a harassing tool

in order to give knowledge to a wider community about this harassing tool

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what you talking about

You aren’t entitled to people playing with you though?

People being able to identify a potential bad actor before interacting with them isn’t a bad thing. One of the biggest problems with WoW, is that people figured out that they could be massive tools and suffer zero social consequences, due to how unlikely it was that they’d ever run into the same people.

This just makes people face the potential consequences of being insufferable.

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apparently something you didn’t decide to learn about

what a reach, add someone to your ignore list and deal with it

ANY LAST THING ELSE, IS STEPPING OUTSIDE OF YOUR PERSONAL BOUNDARIES

oh, so it’s not about people’s individual experiences, it’s about controlling other experiences confirmed.

That same non argument works for the other side of this debate just as well. “Just don’t do things that might get you added to the list”

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except the ignore list is in the game

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And the ignore list doesn’t allow subjective comments to be attached to your character with no real ability to get them removed

And the ignore list doesn’t list out these comments on github for everyone to see.

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The hilarious part is that this person that created this “addon” has a discord to “appeal” reports as if he thinks he will be incredible successful to actually have powers to accept or deny reasons… hubris level infinite.

The more decisions I see from other players the less I want to spend around with randoms.

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the sad part is the clearly intelligent people defending it

another faith in humanity lost

Exactly what I was suspecting :joy: So in other words they alone will dictate the reputations of others while they are untouchable… since all reports will go through them.

The temptation of being able to control what people do a la ‘China Social Points’ is too great. They never think about future consequences.

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…can’t stand it

There is a very real problem with the toxicity in WoW’s community, and that toxicity can be traced directly to the complete lack of consequence for being anti-social jerks to every random they meet.

This needs to be addressed by Blizzard, and there are countless ways they COULD address it, but they’ve simply pretended it isn’t a problem. It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, that someone eventually stepped in and tried to make a solution. The only legitimate complaint about this add-on, is that it runs of fairly arbitrary “comments”, with negligible ability to vet any of the information.

Far better, would have been a simple ‘review’ type process, where it allows you to submit simple 1-5 type reviews in various categories. Then on the back end, weight those reviews based on how well it meshes with OTHER reviews submitted by other people. It isn’t that hard to quickly assign a trust value of 0 to the guy who slaps everyone they see with a 1 or 5, or the one whose reviews are always the opposite of the average. These are all ‘problems’ that have been solved with report and review processes.

Until Blizzard does something about the out of control toxicity, you’re going to keep seeing add-ons like this come up.

More and more it just reminds me of that popular addon that rose and fell in MoP (maybe it also lasted somewhat into WoD) called OQueue or something…it honestly was a great addon that even to this day was a superior tool than current LFG and it had a ranking system players could give each other that was tracked and handled outside of Blizzard.

As it turned out though, the dev was an incredibly arrogant and egotistical tyrant who hated critical feedback and would go as far as to actually add people to a list of blacklisted users on his end that broke the addon for them (it would never find groups if I recall) and it wouldn’t have surprised me in the least if he didn’t also tweak the rankings data to always make sure him and anyone else he favored had perfect scores and such.

All that said…I still just mainly wish I had a way to track data about people. Mainly key abandoners (though I also think there needs to be some controls in place here) and/or people voted or others consider overly toxic (based on our own individual definitions of that). Like a WoW version of yelp which I fully 100% admit is not a perfect system…still I want it to bump up against Raider IO and the quantifiable (albeit biased) scores it boils people down to.

So because someone was denied/kicked for past behavior - that’s an issue? Kicking for using mercenary is an issue.