I think people would be less upset about the Tmog set if other sets had the same quality

I mean we got gender switch for free now(which was a paid service mind you) , can they add whatever silly tmog on the shop they want ?

Also is not the 1st tmog to be on the store , people forget those 3 crowns that were released years ago ?

Feels like they didnt have time to make a mount for this promotion so they glued up some silly costume similar to the yeti pajamas has to not offend the playerbase by having that type of tmog in the shop …

And like the reply above , a company will make its profit elsewhere if need be … i’d rather they do it like this than lower the quality or fire people/give lower or no bonus…

But it’s really ugly

So what happens if you choose just the 20 dollar option? Is it the whole set?

  • They are already firing people

  • Things already are lower quality. Terrible expansion, no tier sets, xmogs are on the cash shop again, the game is a buggy mess, classes are still unbalanced

So those things are already happening. So no the cash shop does not prevent jack squat. They don’t need the cash shop to turn a profit on WoW. They were able to do just fine without it for YEARS and the game was better off for it.

It’s just greed on the part of acti-blizz. End of story.

You sure do like making these complaint threads about the shop, hmm? :wink:

I feel that Heritage armor, Warfront sets, Mythic raid sets, and even some of the old tier sets are better than this transmog. So I must disagree with you. I actually dislike the set as a whole. A few pieces by themselves are fine.

We’ve also got some great looking sets and pieces coming in Shadowlands.

Keep in mind that they’re not going to make money off the shop if the items aren’t unique in some way.

The cash shop has existed since Wrath. Are we calling the game trash since Wrath? Because I remember people absolutely loving Mists and Legion.

End of your opinion, sure. Which some do not agree with.

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You sure do like going from thread to thread licking boot for Blizzard don’t you hmm? :wink:

Maybe…maybe not.

If Iron skyreaver was both a drop and a paid mount…I’d pay for it. Its my most loved mount. It be worth it to have it not playing 1% games.

And its not because I am lazy. Its just I’d not need yet another mount to get depressed about as I fail at RNG…again. And one less to do raid.

Like when I got fel annihilator. Thank you RNG gods…now hellfire is now longer required weekly if at all. One raid off the list, I put another on the rotation.

Considering you can’t refute my points, I’ll take your snark as acknowledgement that you cannot refute anything and I am right. Thanks! :grin:

I could refute every single one of them in great detail. Especially the part how you conveniently ignored the fact that I was specifically talking about the Raid sets from BFA and then you danced around that point by bringing up old sets and sets from other activities because you knew I was right and couldn’t get around it otherwise.

That shows me you have no interest in a real conversation. You are just here to troll. And I’m not going to waste my time breaking down your argument just for you to disagree with me again. And given that you have over 19k posts on a single character I should have seen that coming. So that’s my fault for engaging with you in the first place.

Yes, but it wasn’t trash because of the cash shop. It was trash because of the hardcore shift in design philosophy that alienated a majority of the playerbase who had been around since 2004 in favor of courting newer players that wanted to play WoW since it became trendy at the time.

Contrary to the opinion of WoW in 2006, you basically were said by every news outlet that you’d drop out of school, call in sick to work 6 days a week and throw your life away to play the game.

In 2009 suddenly the game was the thing to be playing, especially as more celebrities got involved with pushing WoW through the “What’s Your Game?” advertisements or the numerous pop culture icons referencing it.

And most of those people playing hadn’t been playing the game in its earlier stages of the game. I’m pretty confident I could count on my fingers the amount of people still playing who had been playing the game since closed betas during 2004. Most of the current playerbase began playing in either Mid-Wrath, MoP, or Legion. There aren’t that many people who joined during Cataclysm, there sure were a lot of people who did quit during Cataclysm launch when they ramped up heroics back to TBC difficulty, and those that quit when they then proceeded to nerf them back to Wrath style AoE single pull fests.

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^^^100% agree with this^^^

Token prices are the same across regions

https://wowtokenprices.com/US

Converting gold into a token for Blizz bucks gets you $15

After you’ve purchased a Token from the Auction House, right-click the item in your inventory to open the Redemption window. You can choose to redeem your Token for 30 days of Game Time or $15 of Blizzard Balance.

Not disagreeing or making counterpoints just correcting for accuracy

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Best point I’ve seen all day from the anti-shop side. I can’t argue with that because Lethanril is right on this.

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You used one example out of hundreds against this set to further your own agenda, good sir. That’s not a good argument to make.

Actually, I would if you were the type of person capable of such. But you have proven time and time again that if someone doesn’t agree with you, then you simply toss out snark and brush them aside without taking anything into consideration.

Just because someone disagrees with you and comes back with logical points doesn’t mean they’re trolling. This isn’t an echo chamber, it’s a forum.

Because I’ve been here for ages and played for 15 years that suddenly means I’m not worth your time? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

So dismissive of anyone who refutes you, twists things around to make the other person look bad, and likes to strawman… sounds about right for you.

Please attempt to have a conversation like a mature human being, hmm? This isn’t your personal place to trash everything you dislike and then trash those who don’t agree with you. This is a forum of many opinions and thoughts. I don’t dismiss you. I give my side of things, my thoughts and logic. As do others. Perhaps try having a constructive conversation with people instead of creating a hostile environment.

How was the game trash because of a marketing move to attract more players to keep the game going for as long as it has been?

Citation needed.

I’m also trying to figure out what any of this has to do with the topic of this thread.

Two entirely different teams. Cash shop/marketing doesn’t do the work for the expansion dev teams.

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I’m gonna just stop reading here. Most of the BFA sets look pretty good.

Actually, I’m going to do the same. I need to head to bed and I’m not going to get anywhere constructive with some of the people in this thread. Hehe

Be excellent to each other! :kissing_heart:

This is just the tip of the icebergs, Whats to stop Blizzard from doing this again and again?
We’ll just get Texture colored armor for a couple of expansion and they release the amazing well crafted ones on the store.
Just a boring generic reskin of another helmet or robe and then have the Best gear sent to the cash shop so people has to pay an additional $20 ONTOP of their $60 expansion and $15.00 a month sub.

I know, but I was happy to see something that made sense from a player perspective and wasn’t purely, “I don’t like cash shops and they shouldn’t be in the game because what I say goes and Asmon told me to be mad this morning.”

At least, it’s a complaint that makes sense because it’s clear they want to add more mog to the shop (which, btw, I applaud simply BECAUSE the art they do for these separately contracted items is always superior).

The Vulpine Familiar is an example of this. It’s gorgeous and perfect and people lost their MINDS when it got added. The artist was hired specifically to make that mount and the Vulpine Familiar was created, developed, and offered completely and entirely separate from the game. It took NOTHING from the development of the game. Nothing. But people lost their minds.

The only rational discussion during all of that cacophony was the notion that they should hire artists to render things that well for ingame mounts…and that’s sort of what he’s touching on with the “no tier sets, but we get the artist-developed hi-rez mog set for Halloween” deal.

The problem, of course, is that these extra-special art assets take more time and cost more money which is why they hire them out and make them specifically to be offered as special rewards and cash shop items. They’re money-makers, but cost too much in time and money to be a template for EVERY set/mount/asset in the game.

But to discuss all of that requires paragraphs…and most people won’t read or even attempt to engage with multiple paragraphs.

I have enjoyed your take on this all evening, Rhielle, and agree with everything I’ve seen you type.

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Wait, what?

Maybe it’s different for some other classes, but there isn’t one single set in BfA that holds any appeal to me at all.