I still think war mode was a mistake. I think PvP servers and PvE servers are better

Peak war mode was BfA, before flying happened.

Everyone had a chance of surviving when everyone was fresh in BfA and had ground mounts only. That was the fun part of war mode

Infact BfA launch and war mode was peak leveling cause no one was doing the warfront quests yet. So you had alliance strictly leveling in kul tiras and horde in zul’dazar

If you had happen to find said people in war mode it was fair equal game

Unfortunately PvP and PvE is impossible to balance simultaneously due to differences in the gameplay designs.

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As livia pointed out, they are 2 entirely different games.

You can’t balance raids around PvP.

On a pvp your rewards should come from making war with the other faction, not hiding in a PvE raid instance for most of your game time.

You want to raid on a PvP server, you attack the opposite factions cities.

insert 2Pac - When We Ride On Our Enemies soundtrack

‘aight lets mount up and ride out’

‘A group of horde scrubs just hit goldshire and killed gramma’

'time to let ‘em know who hood they in’

That’d be a really fun option.

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I still prefer horde vs alliance. Territory wars and city raids were fun

And you can still have random horde or alliance players show up to help sometimes when you need it the most

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Agreed. Allows me to be on Daggerspine where other players I know are who like to stay in pvp mode, while I dont like having my questing time wasted by bored children. lol.
Warmode was one of the best things they did with this game…that and opening it up so we can level in any old expansion instead of running the gaunlet for 120 levels.

This is how you know someone played on the majority side of a ridiculously unbalanced server

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I was ridiculed on my PvP server because I refused to play raids and dungeons.

I was, however, fully maxed out PvP geared with all PvP gems and enchants

Back then we had PvP only gear, gems, and chants.

Nobody talked smack when the city was raided though. They loved me then.

I had tailoring so I had an extra interrupt with the embersilk nets.

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Definitely great for the people who prefer it, but also no reason not to give the ones who don’t a place to have the experience they preferred for years.

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That’s cuz the blizzard forced faction balance

ayo what

/10char

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I still wait and hope for pvp servers, warmode only seems to work because so many pvpers have given up.

Imagine how mad so many pve players would be if they forced you to only do npc dungeons, sure there will be a handful of happy players who will go on and on about how toxic pve was and all the gatekeeping but that’s not what happens the majority of the time.

Thats what warmode feels like a cheap and shallow attempt to fix the problem, and because the same loud minority claims it works but no one likes it, and drown out actual pvp players.

What is permissible now becomes the answer to other problems.

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Could they have combined all the pvp servers onto 1-2 servers instead?

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If a single PVP server was brought in, I would want the option to never be flagged if I was invited to a group on that server, out in the open world. As long as I can opt out of any kind of world pvp, I will be happy.

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I don’t see a problem with bringing that to retail

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Kind of too late for that

Those embersilk nets were fun to use against hunters. It would confuse the hunters every time they were trapped lol.

:surfing_woman: :man_surfing:

Looks like you didn’t add me to the ignore list after all haha.

And war mode is the worst thing that’s happened to the game. For players who enjoy pvp style

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The removal of defense channels makes it also hard to coordinate.

Sharding and CRZ just makes it even more so hard to defend.

:surfing_woman: :man_surfing:

I hope your main is a rogue like the toon you’re posting on because that’s a rogue statement if I’ve ever seen one.

Malicia. She’s in the Gladiator’s Refuge and hands out instanced PvP quests, but when a supply drop is dropping in the zone you’re in she’ll announce it. She also announces opposing faction assassins or whatever they are.

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