I really enjoy Survival

I mean that you’re trolling.

And I mean that you’re trolling every hunter post as well. If you like the playstyle of old survival, do what I said. Otherwise, you’re just trolling for trolling sake.

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Trolling doesn’t mean “posting something I disagree with”. It means posting facetiously/in bad faith for a reaction. Such as arguing that MM is a good substitute for old SV when you know very well it isn’t.

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Exactly, which is what you do to every survival post. You didn’t come in to this thread and add anything meanful, you came in and trolled.

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How’s that trolling? I was pointing out the painfully obvious fact that OP is being a hypocrite. They dread that sort of callous developer decision making happening to them but they’re fine when it’s done to someone else to benefit them.

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Classic survival rotation as of wrath is literally Kill Shot (which you have as marksman), Explosive Shot (which I said to take), Kill Command (which you can take), Serpent Sting (which you can take), Explosive Trap (use Bleeding Trap), Aimed Shot, Steady Shot

Tell me again how this isn’t marksman on live?

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Let’s start with this.

Tell me what the old Explosive Shot does and how it interacts with the rest of ranged Survival’s gameplay.

Then tell me what the new Explosive Shot does.

I would say this should be enlightening but like I said I think you already understand the fallacy of this equivalency very well.

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Ahh so a single proc is what made the spec YOUR desired version? You think that wouldn’t have changed over the years regardless? Like somehow that 1 proc is going to exist over a decade later. Imagine hoping a rotation isn’t altered slightly over the course of a decade and a half.

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That’s not an answer. What does the old Explosive Shot do, and what does the new one do?

I don’t respond to demands. Troll less - play more. I showed you how to play. Proceed with your whining.

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Evasion.

I think you’ll find that sort of attitude, demanding things of people, will get you evaded quite often.

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Evasion is what people with losing arguments do.

Or what they do to people that think they can demand things of others.

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people really asking for a “modern version” of ranged survival when both beastmaster and marksman trees are god awful. it’d still be a pile of crap like it is now

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RSV fans will deny this, but yes, that’s all they want. They want the RNG proc and the full mobility RSV had. They want to play a melee dps but at range that uses dots and procs.

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I can’t say what the devs would do with it, if it came to it. I’m only going off of my own thoughts, what I would like to see from it if it was developed for the current game. If you’re wondering what that would look like, feel free to download TalentTreeManager(TTM) and import the text from this pastebin into it.

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Its literally the same.

Lol do I need to call out out for this absurd lie?

Just answer the question instead of trying to get someone in a bad gotcha. You never answer the questions people ask and just try to derail it into these sad responses.

Where was your answer?

You on the daily here, youtube, and the hunter discord

You literally evaded his question by asking for an explanation of an undetermined version of the spec. In your own argument and rules of engagement, you Take the L again.

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Oh the irony!

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Is that what happened to Survival originally? I never played it before Shadowlands.