I really enjoy Survival

You got so grumpy at the discussion that you had to run to the ignore list, and now you keep yourself to cheerleader status. Sad!

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Ok that is my bad then, we currently have equal melee and ranged specs (finally lol)

It’s a DPS spec that enhances the DPS/Survivability of other players around it while performing its rotation. If a Aug Evoker does 70% of the damage a normal DPS does, but buffs the other two player’s DPS by 15% on average in a Dungeon group, then that bonus damage brings your total damage done up to 100% of the normal DPS of the group. You could argue that Aug Evoker is the ultimate Pet class, because its Pets are other players, which is hilarious to consider.

I just want to use range on Disengage, ala old Melee Weaving. Where you’d run in for a Mongoose Bite/Raptor, back out for auto shot/arcane/explosive shot, then repeat. Could be a focus generator, or maybe have high leach, to fit into the survival aspect. That was dope back in Wrath, when you could effectively double your DPS by playing around the 5y zone.

No, because it’s a melee DPS spec you goofball lol. That’s like saying “Well, I can’t do 100% of my DPS with Frost spells as a Fire Mage”

Oh, like how SV uses a ranged weapon right now occasionally for Kill Shot, Explosive Shot, etc? Sounds like it works with your definition of foundation.

SV has a solid melee identity though. You just don’t like it so you cry aboutit.

You better tell Assassination Rogue then.

MM doesn’t have players now, therefore the current player base doesnt like ranged weapon fantasies.

You ignore what I say all the time apparently lol. I give actionable feedback for current MM instead of people like you who cry on the forums 24/7 about how a spec I dont like should be removed.

I’m simply applying your points to MM.

Why dont people play MM then?

You were arguing with me just last month that BM already had a cooldown. Now you seem to be singing a different tune lol

Starthistle, we’ve been over this. You did not melee weave in WotLK. The melee swing timer was shared with the ranged one. So you lost a much-more-powerful Auto Shot (+ Steady Shot filler cast) by melee weaving.

Stop switching alts to harass me.

Stop lying about WotLK.

Well there’s the problem.

I should be able to do 100% of my damage with a ranged weapon as a Hunter. It’s an important part of the class. The most important part, in fact.

There’s a big difference between shapeshifting and melee v.s. ranged weapons.

Looks like I’m not the only one that doesn’t like it.

Yes it’s a cool thematic distinction to go to a spec with 3 melee DPS specs and make one of them distinct with rot damage including poisons.

Just like it is for a class with 3 ranged specs.

They liked it a few months ago in season 1. Maybe they should just make MM good.

Weird how “this spec is an irredeemable mess and needs a floor-to-ceiling rework” is actionable for MM but not SV.

Yes, like I said: deflection.

They do play it.

Even now, with all the disadvantages, people are beginning to give MM a chance.

And, of course, there are all the times where MM has been a strong and widely played spec.

Having a cooldown doesn’t specifically mean having a strong 2/3 minute burst.

“I should be able to do 100% of my healing with shapeshifting as a Restoration Druid. It’s an important part of the class”

“I should be able to do 100% of my damage with my staff as a Mage. It’s the class icon”

“I should be able to 100% of my damage as melee as an Elemental Shaman. It’s what we start with.”

Your entire premise and thought process is flawed, exaggerated, and ridiculous.

shapeshifting is the class icon for Druids, Bepples says it’s a core foundation of the class, suddenly it’s different? not as important?

Kind of like how people don’t like MM.

How many classes have 3 melee dps specs vs how many classes have 3 ranged dps specs?

They should and also more fun.

I’ve gone into detail on what direction I think they can take current MM without drastically throwing it away and changing roles like you. You can’t even fathom mSV existing, which is why you cry for 8 years straight.

“No you can’t use my arguments, that’s deflection”.

So if 2k people play MM it’s fine, but if 2k people play SV it’s a problem. Great logic :slight_smile:

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is this not a bannable offense?

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Oh, wait. It is bannable. I’ve gone out of my way to block him three times now, and he keeps switching to his alts to harass me and appear in my notifications. This kind of behavior should not be tolerated on the forums and a moderator needs to action him for this kind of abuse.

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If someone is using alts to evade mutes it’s a reportable offense, yes

*Lies/revises history on the forums*

*Gets called out for it*

“Please don’t harass me”

It’s just a forum bug; sometimes it sticks me on another character. Weird.

Which patch was this

It’s not deflection lol you just use that word every time it’s pointed out how flawed your logic is by applying it to another hunter spec

I’m not reading all that but I am happy for you though or sorry that happened.

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This thread is why blizz doesnt come to the forums anymore…

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Ok then, here’s your part.

Oh, really? Because ranged SV was usually a very widely enjoyed spec while melee SV is usually among last place in representation.

What’s your metric for “works better”?

How is a ranged spec redundant yet a melee spec is useful to the class? What good is a melee spec when our ranged specs can fight in melee?

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Great question, do you think ranged DPS shouldn’t be allowed to fight in melee at all. :+1: Would be an interesting way to balance it.