I keep getting mixed answers about the viability of paladins at end game

[Frosto-faerlina]

@Eichendorff-wyrmrest-accord

I don’t sink all of this time into leveling a paladin if I can’t get him into any groups…

What are your end game hopes?

A 94% parsing ret paladin has their dps almost doubled by a 25% parsing rogue.

@Frosto-faerlina

Yes, and that is parsing at 94%! (However, contrast it with the 25% parsing rogue in the same fight , doing 718dps).

You may wish to check out this person’s thread:

@Kaine-kromcrush

My goal here is to save someone a lot of time before they roll these specs.

And some of the comments:

@Veshzi-deviate-delight

Ret pally (sadly) brings literally nothing to the table that is unique and separate from holy paladin, except it takes a slot (and the corresponding gear) that could be used by a warrior.

@Veshzi-deviate-delight

I’m in a guild with 3 raid teams, all of which smash BWL around the 60min mark each week. Each team has exactly 1 ret pally, which we allowed (at the time) because we knew they would be swinging the nightfall. We even prio’ed Hand of Rag to them as a consolation for their dirty work.

The proc rate is garbage, and its even worse when its being used by a ret paladin, that basically can only stand there and ‘right-click’ most of the time. Even a warrior spamming hamstring is 3x better at this than a ret pally.

So now its back to… why bring a ret, exactly?

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Will it be possible to play as a Ret Paladin in a Raiding guild? Probably.

Will you be anywhere near the damage levels of the other melee classes, Warriors and Rogue? No, not anywhere near.

You will have a very easy time finding a raid group as a Holy Paladin.