My Retribution Paladin & Enhancement Shaman "meme spec" experience

[Veshzi-deviate-delight]

@Vivenmort-arugal

I always encourage people not to roll meme specs, and it’s not because I’m a jerk who wants to gatekeep how people play a 15 year old game. But it’s because it genuinely sucks not to have anything good to contribute to your raid and it engenders resentment from the rest of the raid. Just play a genuinely good class.

When it comes to gear, you really can’t justify giving a BiS melee DPS piece to a class that has so so much more potential to perform with the item and will get more mileage out of it.

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thanks.

@Vivenmort-arugal

Regarding Nightfall, the proc rate is complete trash compared to private servers and not even worth using at all in my opinion.

I’m in a guild with 3 raid teams, all of which smash BWL around the 60min mark each week. Each team has exactly 1 ret pally, which we allowed (at the time) because we knew they would be swinging the nightfall. We even prio’ed Hand of Rag to them as a consolation for their dirty work.

The proc rate is garbage, and its even worse when its being used by a ret paladin, that basically can only stand there and ‘right-click’ most of the time. Even a warrior spamming hamstring is 3x better at this than a ret pally.

So now its back to… why bring a ret, exactly?