LOL. Imagine if you tried to actually apply to blizzard spewing the nonsense you’ve puked in this thread. Got rightfully denied and you walk away with this hot take?
Oh lord… I’m laughing. That would be AMAZING. Please stream a complaint video.
Its not that I would actually walk out with that take. Its that your ability to distinguish whether this change is effective or accomplishes anything is laughably little.
I know I know…and as such they shouldn’t try because Owns says so.
The designers came up with this course of action. You know better then the designers. You clearly have intimate knowledge into how these things are investigate and the results those investigations conclude. And of course, with this knowledge you’ve devised a better course of action into dealing with this exploit that also manages to not have any impact on the playerbase what so ever.
Because Owns.
lol.
I love everyone reaction to this… Like in the first 3 days of Wow classic SM was packed full of people spaming SM over an over an over. Streamers were literally doing it on one of the most watched channels while also abusing the 6 player method.
But ya god forbid the average person want to help others level, or sell some boosts. That would just be hearse
So lets take a look at this logically, I will try to break it down as simple as possible so you have the slightest chance of comprehending it.
The boosting isn’t the exploit they’re targetting, if that were the case they would have made it so either A) Nobody gets xp when a character is level 60 in a low level dungeon group or B) Make it so only players within 10 levels of eachother get xp in a dungeon group.
Fact is: Wall hacking, pathing abuse, those are exploits. That is a fact. You not liking boosting doesn’t make boosting an exploit. That is a fact. Facts do not care about your feelings.
This change does not stop boosting, it doesn’t even stop the exploits they’re targetting.
This change does not stop automation. Bots will just create more accounts to farm more gold to sell.
This change only affected legitimate players farming HoJ, SGC, etc and also the players providing leveling services that you’re jealous of cause you’re incapable of providing it yourself, hence why you’re in support of this change.
Owns, I’ve grabbed the first couple of your posts I came across in this thread. Now, since you’re such a logical guy let’s talk about this like big brained logical dudes amirite:
“Blizzard has allowed boosting for 16 years, they’re not suddenly going to be against it after all that time.”
Citation needed. Homework for owns: Has boosting been going on at this level for 16 years? How do you know that Blizzard isn’t against boosting at this time?
“Dunno if youve noticed but majority of forumers are against the change. Its ok if you dont like boosting, this change doesnt stop boosting so i guess kudos on an imaginary small victory but if anything you should be against the change because blizzard changed an actual gameplay element of classic.”
Citation(s) needed. Multiple fallacies. Not really an argument at all. You get an F for this owns, see me after class.
“This change will not bring more people into low level dungeon groups. People boost because they dont wanna take the time to level, you think being forced to make leveling longer is gonna make them want to alt?”
Citation(s) needed. Once again not really an argument at all. More of a confused mishmash of unfounded allegations passed off as fact.
F-
Your citation is that boosting has existed since Vanilla. People have been selling or providing for free stocks run since the beginning of the game. You can log onto retail right now and find people paying for mythic+ runs. Boosting has never been an issue with Blizzard. Its a player to player interaction with a service being sold for in game gold which is well within the rules of the game.
Your citation is the Kaivax thread about the change and seeing the overwhelming negative response to the change.
Why would people pay gold to level faster if they liked the tediousness of leveling? The entire reason behind paying for boosts is to increase the speed of leveling. The history of WoW itself is proof that people generally dont like the time it takes to level. Heirlooms, catch up mechanics, exp squish for prior expansion content, those are all because the leveling was desired to be sped up.
You must have gotten your teaching degree from University of Phoenix broseph.
So let me break this down for you, so that it’s as simple as possible for you to understand.
Bots were exploiting instance farming through boosting as part of their means to make their needed GPD (gold per day) target number.
Gold per day as defined by the amount needed to make gold farming profitable enough.
As such by limiting the amount of instances a single account can generate in a day, you limit their chances of hitting the desired GPD through instance farming.
They apparently targeted instances based off of the information gathered through investigation that likely detailed instance farming as being the most popular method of gold farming at this current time. Information that you don’t have.
I hope this helps.
Now of course the bots will likely move on to other methods and those will again, be needed to be investigated and a plan of action taken place that will have moderate to low impact on the actual playerbase.
But expect it. It’s coming.
Instance farming is not exploiting. Otherwise multiboxers would be considered exploiting, which they are not.
This change does not achieve this as botters will just create more accounts on more realms to counter the change, therefore making the change ineffective against bots.
Its obvious that instance farming is the most effective gold farming method, that doesn’t make instance farming an exploit.
The change will be reverted because it doesn’t fulfill the purpose its stated to serve.
Well I guess Blizzard disagrees with you. Write them up a heavily worded letter detailing your grievances!
Well they clearly think it will based off of information they have that you don’t? Again. Write them a letter. Tell them about how stupid they are and how smart you are! Maybe use that as an opener?
Well again…it’s their game and they decide what is and isn’t intended. And they have clearly made a stance on this. And clearly you disagree. You can stop playing at anytime if you don’t like the direction they have gone.
Boom! Solved your problem!
Oh and before you go, can I has your stuffz?
or, more likely, they wont be leveling. you fools that think people not getting boosted will suddenly be crying out to join your Uldaman group are delusional
I don’t care about my Uldaman group.
And I don’t care that you are put off that you can’t get as many boosts as you could before to level your many, many ults to 60.
Hope this helps.
Blizzard has a history of making changes that were ineffective and reverted, kinda like this change will have happen.
You can claim theyre basing it off of information we dont have all you want, it does not take a rocket scientist to see what will happen from this change. The more effective change would be to fix the wall hacking and pathing problems but they took the lazy way out that effected legitimate players rather than the targetted offenders.
Yeah, its their game and their decision. Doesn’t make it the correct stance.
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Can I have your stuff?
Well if they come back in the future and revert this change…you can come back and do the “i told ya so” dance. Still doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have tried.
So I guess there is that.
Ya, that would definitely also help. And maybe they have and just didn’t detail it? Or maybe it’s a bigger change that takes a bit more work and will be implemented in a later patch?
You don’t know. You are just mad about the lock outs.
Gonna guess you have a mage that was running boosting services and this change makes ya all mad!
Boo hoo.
Well you have a choice to make now. Put on your big boy pants and use the door. Or stay and deal with it.
What’s it gonna be?
If history is any indication of the future this change will be reverted and much sooner than you’d probably anticipate.
I do not have a mage that provides boosting services, I do however farm HoJ quite often. Hitting 30 instances in a 24 hour period is quite easy.
I somehow do not believe that their method in trying to diminish bot farming is going to be swayed by your desire to run HoJ 30 times in 24 hours.
That’s just a hunch but I would say it’s a fairly safe one.
Blizz dev team - “guys guys…we have to come up with a different course of action. This player Ownz farms HoJ more than 30 times a day, every day and this would impact that player!”
More than 30 times a day? Every day? LOL. You have the WORST LUCK I have ever read.
Maybe the game is trying to tell ya to stop trying so hard?
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Its obviously not because I want to run HoJ 24/7, but because this change accomplishes nothing and the overwhelming negative feedback its gotten.
I find it a little absurd there are so many people that love to do stocks runs in this old game like it’s something they look forward to doing every hour on the hour.
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You don’t know what it accomplishes because you don’t know what the exact intent of the changes are based off of the fact that you are not privy to the information they have gathered through their investigations.
You are being ridiculous. You come across sounding like a child making outrageous claims with little to no information beyond personal experiences to back your claims up.
Just sit back, relax and let them decide what the best course of action is based off of the information they have obtained.
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