Either blizz doesnt want to admit that the dragon form looks silly or they are too lazy to add in a couple new animations for evoker abilities in visage form
Numbers speak for themselves. Class is unpopular.
I still cant beleive they continue to gatekeep the first new caster class in 20 years behind this goofy lizard look. Mage was getting stale after 2 decades and they just had to force this ugly lizard scalie form behind it
They said in the same blog post of the 20th that it wont happen
I use a toy to change the lizard form and the beam comes out of your hand like a mind flay its fine
Outside of not making visage permanent, because it makes no sense and its a dumb idea, i think its funny they say they are trying to listen to the community and then dont make soar a form of mount where you dont get dismounted on ground and they dont give dragons full xmog. They instead add a way for players to soar together, but who asked for that and why waste the resources on making that a thing when they couldve fixed the qol…
You know what’s so ironic about people like you. I actually have advocated for Moonkin Form on Balance Druid to be optional in the past, and I probably had 98% of people replying how it was a terrible idea to make it optional and to play another class.
So, I go back to Mage and play Evoker leaving Druid to the wayside because I don’t prefer being a moon chicken (I hate shiny blueberry Glyph of Stars too)— letting Druid players “gatekeep” Balance from me.
But when it comes to Evoker and being a “giant lizard” which I actually like for the class, and Evoker being brand new compared to the Druid class by the way, it’s like 60% to 80% of people have the dissenting opinion and want to steal the flavor from this class with permanent Visage form.
Sorry for the rant, but where were you people when I wanted (Alliance) High Elves. When I wanted Moonkin Form to be optional. When I wanted Priest Shadowform to be optional. It’s absolutely crazy to me. That’s all.
Except we can’t, because the side that wants human Evokers aren’t going to stop at just visage all the time. The next step is going to be removing the animation that doesn’t work with said human form. Then they’re going to demand that the range gets set at 40 yds and then ask for the movement abilities to be removed.
Essentially turning the class into a just another spell-caster instead of something unique and interesting.
that doesnt even make sense, none of this happened with balance druid. Spell range has nothing to do with seeing your transmog not looking like a scalie 24/7
While Blood Elves and Night Elves are popular races, the vast majority of players don’t play them. On the flip side, the Monk class is open to all races and its one of the least played classes in the game. The point is, race availability has nothing to do with popularity of a class.
Druids have different forms, but it’s still a bear or cats behind, or a fat space chicken. You’re free to believe that Dracthyr forms (which have loads of customization options) are worse than that if you wish.
I hear quite a few spell casters complain about being essentially turrets that have to stick to a single spot. Evokers don’t have that problem, and are able to zip around the battlefield and cast spells all over the place. It all comes down to preference I suppose.
that is a terrible point, are you generally saying the look of a race doesnt have any factor of representation?
If Demon Hunter could only be a worgen female you would 100% see less Demon hunters.
You think tomorrow if they added in visage dps and you could pick any race to play as evoker the representation wouldnt increase?
One of the main criticisms of evoker is transmog and look. I think you are lying to yourself.
Nothing Balance Druid did was dependent on being a fat space chicken. Quite a lot of what Evokers do is dependent on having the body of a dragon. That’s why the race was created in the first place.
I use toys already when i play evoker to change to a humanoid form in combat and the casting animations exist for disintegration and fire breath it just comes out of your hands like a mind flay. Why would blizzard have to remove dracthyr animations, i think you are overreacting
Your post is an example of Blizzard removing animations. Going from a dragon that breathes spell frost to a caster shooting spell frost from their hands like a mage is a completely different thematic, and a departure from the purpose of the Evoker class.
Exactly!!! This is why I always wished Moonkin Form was cosmetic like Treant Form is for Restoration. The only thing you could say for Balance Druid needing Moonkin Form would be that Elune blessed and powered up Moonkins which makes Balance Druid’s spellcasting more powerful (from a lore standpoint). But like… that was all the way back in flippin’ Vanilla WoW when we were plebian adventurers.
These days, our characters are the champions of Azeroth and Balance Druid players are probably nearly as powerful as the top Druids in the game, probably some fraction of the power of Malfurion even. We don’t NEED to be in a Moonchicken form anymore.
Let alone the fact that Moonchickens don’t add anything gameplay wise other than 10% spell damage and maybe the Polymorph immunity (which could easily be baked into the spec passively). Balance Druids and Shadow Priests could easily use every spell outside of these forms.
All this to say, if we want to bring it back to Evokers, Dracthyr form is their TRUE FORM. Visage is NOT. It makes sense that an Evoker is going to feel the most powerful and comfortable even fighting in their trueborn forms. Let alone gameplaywise, many abilities are breath based and wings based and such.
How does that remove the animation for people playing evoker in lizard form?
The tiny percentage of representation evokers have in the game tell me that they already failed at implementing a good dragon race.
Im sure if wrathion wanted to cast his fire abilities he could easily do it in his visage form. You are just being gatekeepy, i have seen him multiple times using his dragon mage in visage form.
Go to the Druid forum and propose that Blizzard allow you to tank and DPS without entering Bear, Cat, and Moonkin form, and let me know how it goes.
And by the way, you can cast Living Flame in Visage form.
Another random side thing I just thought of. I recently was saying in the Priest forums how I didn’t like that Discipline spec forces us to use “many” Shadow spells, while the Holy magic side of the tree was lacking for a very long time, so it was never really used compared to the Shadow side.
And many people on the Priest forums told me “maybe you should just go play a Paladin then” (like that’s even slightly the same gameplay wise as Priest LOL), rather than giving even a fraction of the engagement and well thought out points you’ve given these guys about Evokers on this forum alone.
Feral druids do want humanoid feral forms, we had them in wod. Your the only person asking for less customization.
“I want less customization because other people will use them and ruin my experience” gatekeepy
Beng a werecat is not the same as simply being a Night Elf or a Troll in armor scratching stuff. I completely support more Dracthyr forms… I don’t support kicking dragon forms to the curb in favor of Evokers just being another spell-casting class like the others.
And yes, seeing Elves or Humans running around casting Disintegrate and Pyre from their hands would ruin my experience as an Evoker, because it completely invalidates the class fantasy I rolled the class for. Just like seeing people tank as a Druid without having to be in bear form would make quite a few Druid players upset.
Harder pass on your opinion. If it makes sense to do it why not, but if it doesn’t then it doesn’t. How you gonna tail swipe without a tail? You don’t. As for people who argue that toys can change your appearance and you can still use your abilities. The best way to put it is your not actually what your toy makes you appear as. It’s an illusion.
doesn’t mean they should.