I hate how much time I spent this week filling my vault for nothing

[Dazingo-arugal]

Grab loot from vault, kill world boss, do bountiful delves, log off for 6 days, rinse repeat. Very fun much game

[Kriya-emerald-dream]

After getting RNG’d last night out of two pieces of gear from LFR by a Shaman with all 626 gear you can F right off with that opinion.

[Mercfriend-thrall]

Even if you got an upgrade, it is only good until the next tier. Endless grinding for the same gear with a higher number is the heart of the game.

[Strausswylde-moon-guard]

The Vault is how gambling works.
Sometimes you win. Most times you loose.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

If they insist on time gating I would like to see upgrade tokens, to take already-existing gear up to the next tier.

Crafted gear is the bad luck protection system.

[Dorfpriest-living-flame]

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

First of all, I didn’t play back before there wasn’t a weekly chest/vault. So this time you speak of, I wasn’t there.

So you’re being educated that you have it way better than we had it then.

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

For all intents and purposes the vault is the only progression left that I have

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

I would like to get into pushing higher keys but they nerfed my class and my ilvl is 5-10 below the people pushing the keys I want to get into.

If the vault is your only means of progression, that would land you around 627 ilvl, which is more than enough for key levels that you’re going to be doing.

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

For all intents and purposes the vault is the only progression left that I have

You hit the hard part of gear progression. Grats. That means your ilvl is high enough to do any content in the game.

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

Honestly, the “vault is just a bonus” comment I think must be one made just to annoy people

It’s a fact, and if it annoys you doesn’t move the needle one bit lol.

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

So many "L"s

My eyes just rolled out of my head.

Get real. You hit your progression cap and didn’t get what you wanted out of the vault. Join a mythic raid team or just deal with what the rest of us deal with.

[Flesha-tichondrius]

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

I spent so much time last week getting my myth-track vault slots filled. I only have 3 myth track pieces so far. The first myth track vault I got gave me the one item I wouldn’t use, and now I’m essentially skunked again.

I feel ya and there are plenty of good ideas and examples to improve great vault system and it totally sucks game designers have not worked into it.

I’m aproaching that level of very FEW possible upgrades I could have out of GV and that is considering items that are useful once catalized too (which greatly helps bad RNG) and when I stop getting upgrades week after week I’d just stop doing keys completely, where if we had a token system I’d continue the grind for such currency because I know ill get what I need/want in the end.

Plenty of people in the same situation, it hurts the M+ community having less and less people doing keys, its bad enough already the lack of capable tanks and healers out there who are willing to pug.

CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.

[Fibblepop-stormrage]

Spending my time soldering on, making sure my vault was filled out. Two days ago I was like “Nope, I’m done with the Vault hunt” and break time to do other things and just screw around.

Go strong on the gear treadmill only to then need to take a break because I just get tired of it all.

[Penderghast-stormrage]

Deterministic loot feels a lot better than the vault. Blizz wants keep the excitment of getting something really good with RNG loot systems, but most of the time it results in disappointment. RNG loot is one of those relics from WoW’s beginning that they won’t ever let go of.

[Tek-grizzly-hills]

first time?

i took tokens on 3 different weeks by now even if i do 8x10s a week

get used to it it’s gonna happen a lot.

[Eàu-warsong]

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

So instead, just attack me for whining about getting a crap vault.

In DF S3 or S4 I had like 4 weeks in a row where I could not update anything because all presented items were alredy mtrack on me. Truly sadge.
But there would be blizzard apologies who would explain that it is perfectly fine.

Can we already have bullions back and all gear purchasable it oculd be with the vault currency. Lets say 2 vaults or 1 deterministic BIS if vault RNG was bad.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

@Eàu-warsong

But there would be blizzard apologies who would explain that it is perfectly fine.

You’re going to run out of gear drops at some point. Do you complain then?

[Eàu-warsong]

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

Do you complain then?

Noep, besides I never complain,
I provide constructive feedback to improve experience for all players.
Huge difference.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

Your feedback is incessant complaining about how things aren’t easy enough or gear doesn’t drop enough.

[Eàu-warsong]

If you would be allowed to design WOW drop, loot, encounters or difficulty the next day literally 99.999999999999% of playerbase left leaving you alone.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

Funny, I prefer something like the current path, or just giving it away to everyone for free. (So people can do what they want to do.)

Also floated around the idea of a vault that doesn’t require refilling. Just one piece of loot per week without doing anything once it’s been filled.

Aren’t you in favor of free loots?

[Eàu-warsong]

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

Aren’t you in favor of free loots?

Never was, never will.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

The bulk of your ideas are make things easier, so it becomes free. Like keys never depleting, nerfing dungeons repeatedly so they don’t pose a challenge anymore. Or buffing roles needlessly for the same effect.

Or outright removing content, like mythic raiding.

[Rabititus-shuhalo (Rabititus)]

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

The first myth track vault I got gave me the one item I wouldn’t use, and now I’m essentially skunked again.

So those coins were useless?

Just think, without the vault, you wouldn’t have the things you did get on a good week.

[Floweret-stormreaver]

@Xianwae-lightbringer

And that’s bad?

Because the only source for the best gear, from m+, is the vault.