I wish you could spend your time and gift me the garbage you get.
Iâm at a point with the vault where thereâs like⌠4? Items total, from mythic+ and mythic raid, that are an upgrade. Might be 5 idk.
Obviously avoidance would be cool too 
Replying to this again because this was the most encouraging thing out of this thread, and I wanted to thank you. I am suddenly feeling a bit more optimistic about this game because iâll be able to get my 4/8 done soon and start farming that. Perhaps Iâll be able to catch up on some basic ilvl soon
Oh Oh. You could do what I have been doing the last 2 weeksâŚtrying to level a character, but not outlevel it, so I can get the MoP garden, so I can get the dog, so I can level my Garrison, to get the dog there, so I can go to Legion Dalaran and get an item to show to the dog, so it goes to Dalaran and then dies in the fiery Dalaran crash to be able to finally loot the bowl in the Isle of Dorn.
I tried it with my Earthen person, to knock out 2 achievements with one alt, however, I hit 70 before I got enough resources for the garrison and it automatically put me in TWW, so I couldnât loot the stuff in Dalaran.
So, I started over with a DK last night. I just have to figure how to level up to get the garden in MoP where the dog will show up, and then the garrison without hitting 70. I mean, I am already level 14 just leaving the DK starting area.
I donât know how else to get the dog bowl. All my other characters already saw DF Dalaran crash.
The relative simplicity / lax tuning of the first half of mythic, coupled with day 1 cross realm had a pretty big impact on the mythic pug scene.
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So, RNG is RNG?
Ah, so just continuing the tantrum I guess. Thankfully blizzard will just continue to ignore you. Everyone else should follow suit.
Wait ⌠what? Do you mind explaining this a bit more? What would you outlevel? Like â if you were to simply go back to pandaria as a level 80 where would it stop stop you?
" a man must learn his limitations" or just keep chasing that dragon until you dieâŚ
My main has the dog in her garrison, however, when she goes to Legion Dalaran, itâs already in the phase where TWW comes in, so I canât get a pebble. I can see it as Iâm getting logged in, but then it phases out.
ah interesting, Iâll probably try to get this. I wonder â do you have all of the campaign finished? I donât have a dog but when I go into legion dalaran after having done all of the campaign it looks normal. Though in all fairness I did just search for a pebble and did not find one
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You are getting a extra reward for doing content in the game. Thats what the vault is. You guys obsessing about getting the best RNG out of it need to realize this.
Itâs not an extra reward. It is the gear that the game is tuned around.
Thank you for the explanation. I had assumed gear grew with the difficulty pluses.
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At this point in the game the chance of me getting any upgrade from the vault is comically low. 
I guess Iâll craft a neckpiece now to go with my crafted weapon/bracers/boots/belt.
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It would also be infinitely easier than clearing an entire mythic raid. Which is why they donât do this.
It is literally an extra reward. All previous alternatives did not provide this reward. This makes it a âbonusâ reward for clearing that content. You want it to be a reliable progression path. It never has been.
âI got lucky while making sure to max my vault every week in previous seasonsâ does not change this.
Because it is in the game, it is not âbonusâ
By your logic then any kind of RNG gear is âbonusâ
Blizzard does not tune 12âs around people wearing heroic gear that they got from the end of their +7âs. They obviously intend people to work their gear up from the vault over the weeks. Every time one doesnât get gear from the vault, it is a delay of one week.
If you canât see that then I donât know what to say
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Iâll make sure to tell my employer that my bonus is not a bonus because I clocked in. What kind of logic is this? A thing exists = it cannot be a bonus?
Blizzard doesnât tune 12âs around much at all and that is why meta comps exist. There is no reason at all to provide additional rewards to people that stack a group for push ranges.
Run mythic raids if you want a reliable gearing path for mythic track. This has always been the case.
That Pesa doesnât think they will have full mythic track by end of season doesnât change that the vault is a bonus reward and not a reliable progression path. You hit your ceiling. It happens.
I do find it funny that people cheered for a M+ key squish and then immediately turned around and started begging to inflate rewards into the push range though. 
These complaints ultimately come down to âI canât do mythic raids but I am entitled to mythic gear anyhow.â
I do find it funny that some people posting here are unable to consider that there are multiple people on these forums with differing opinions. That they lump everyone together. Particularly funny because I started a thread, where I think you commented, about the pitfalls of M+ not having enough key levels at certain ranges.
If you regularly get a bonus, then that is a performance standard your employer is setting. If your performance stays consistent or improves and you do not get a bonus where you once did, then that is a reduction of pay. If you were my friend and that happened to you, I would tell you to leave that job ASAP. But this is a game and not the real world.
Blizzard balances around the vault, end of story.
Full cap right here. If youâre talking about 18âs? sure. But 12âs? youâre saying they put in an entirely different affix but donât do ANY tuning? And they literally just tuned challengerâs peril. The sad thing is they listen to people like you even though you have no idea what youâre talking about because you post in like every thread on these forums
Meta comps are the design of Blizzard. They have commented on this in interviews. They have also commented that they try to maintain the meta. The most populous part of the player base cares about meta comps. It actually turns out that casual players are not the most populous ⌠the most people playing this game are mid-level key runners. This is why posting a tier list video always gets so many views. Itâs ez money
Mythic raids are not a reliable source of myth track gear for an indivudal player, other than ⌠the vault! This tells me you havenât raided much yourself. If you had, youâd know that the drop rate is abysmal and you will likely only see an upgrade every other week or so. We have a CE raider above that touches on this as well
If a group sticks together then it becomes a more reliable source as the raid gears up. But then again why am I saying this, you have no idea what youâre talking about.
Again, I have said this before in this thread that I expect to be close to 639 by the end of this season. What I donât like is the weeks of delay. But you wouldnât understand this because you obviously spend all of your time in the forums and donât push keys. You even have your profile hidden so that you donât get called out on this
Stop clowning around. Your avatar suits you
ITT: OP gets called out for whining about a non-issue, continues to argue her side like that will make it any more convincing.
No.
Push high keys for a chance at myth track gear from the dungeons themselves, or rely entirely on your once a week vault lottery.