It’s really pathetic to see people defending this.
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It’s just one Boss though, surely it would be pretty quick?
back in DF it would sometimes show when bosses were down when the que popped, but it would also sometimes not show at all and put me into raids that were almost completely finished. one of the worst systems i have ever seen tbh
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No, I mean you’ll never have a situation where you never get partial runs, barring exceptions lfds are usually full completes
sometimes you get raids that are basically completely finished and on last boss. those are the most annoying ones cause then u have to reque again, wait at the front of the que line again for no reason at all other then the system decided so.
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Welcome to the party.
you are late.
this was announced a while ago.
anyone leaving any L.F._ group at any time for any reason will be punished.
because back in the day… players would hold groups hostage… o wait wrong story…
Players would drop after the first boss to requeue for a trinket drop so blizz enacted this new rule.
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This.
Three options:
- Remove LFR loot lockout.
- Remove deserter debuff for leaving LFR with a boss or more down.
- Stop backfilling LFR groups. If people start falling out, the raid is over, and those people can leave and queue again.
After their 30 minute deserter debuff for being degenerate leavers of course.
Current state is unacceptable as it punishes players for absolutely nothing.
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As in there will always be partial runs? This isn’t shocking, unless I am further not reading your words correctly?
No trolling, actually wanting to understand.
High tier adjusted adult take.
so you think its good design to punish players because they refuse to design a better system. got it.
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as well as you should you left before it was over working correctly
I understand.
That’s why I was asking about Bosses being broken up into their own Raids, so you que for Boss you want and that’s it.
You can still que for full raid also, but I see that being the lesser used method tbh.
Just putting it out there, no dogs in this fight at all.
Yes, there will always be partial runs, and 100 out of 100 times the play is to leave bosses you already killed as it is a giant waste of time, you get nothing
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Do I think its good design to implement consequences for leaving content halfway through? Yes.
If you were anymore bad faith in your posts you would almost be a masters class on it.
And the consequence is getting the debuff. Would a better system where you never were placed into incomplete runs be awesome? yes. This would be my choice personally as the vote kick system is fine to me.
Is this the system we have now which is unlikely to change this expansion? yes.
You leave, you deserted, you get the debuff.
No, they filled in and helped another group finish and are being punished with a second queue and a debuff if they do not do the dungeon in its entirety again.
That’s messed up.
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Nah, it’ll probably change back, as it is out of the scope of the original change, this unfairly punishes people for back filling
If I’m always going to get the debuff, I might as well leave the partial
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I expect it to change eventually and it should. I don’t think even Blizzard is stupid enough to think this is reasonable even if their fanboys are currently doing so.
Yep. Still gonna leave the partial but I’m also going to stay chain queued in the mean time as more wings roll out. I’m not sure if it’s still working but you could still accept queues with an active debuff at the end of DF as long as you chained queues before taking the debuff.
The more you know!
And before anyone says it. This is just working as intended.
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Because Blizz put the full timer debuff into the system after degenerates were leaving Heroics after the first boss to requeue for their dumb trinket.
The system isn’t different for LFR or dungeons, so this is what we’re stuck with.
Only suggestion I have is to chain queue the different wings when we get more wings, run all of them, then requeue for one first boss. Seems to be the only way to deal with it.
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You have to thank that change to the geniuses that chase “bis lists” like their lifehood depends on it…
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They might. Doubt it’ll be this expansion though. Wont fight it regardless as I don’t get the deserter debuff as often as some apparently. When I do I move on with my life for the timer.
That is your choice, with known consequences for doing so.
“other people can’t possibly form a differing opinion from me and not be bootlickers!”
I am more a fan of not seeing half a raid/dungeon leave ad nauseum when they don’t get their drop. Which is currently a real thing happening in dungeons/raid and gives me an idea why this is the way it is.
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I mean, it’s about maybe 30-40% of runs that it’s a partial, so it’s not the majority
Happens a lot more in end boss wings with more than one boss
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