You really have no tanking spells that are really beneficial its a slow slow grind. My advice suck it up buttercup, that is how the real tanks rolled it out in the day. Also we are dealing with gimme gimme gimme players bliz created because we complained stuff was too hard now we kind of have to sleep in the bed we made lol.
Bear threat far surpasses a warriors. A bear in full mitigation gear using 1 MCP will do more threat at 60 than a fury prot war using 2 weapons.
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Donāt think most people realize how few spells and tools warriors, druids and paladins have to create threat. A lot of it is simply auto attacking which is very slow.
Meanwhile mages are completely busted at low levelā¦
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Youāre only 17. How much actual experience could you possibly have to make such a final decision?
Pretty solid stuff. But iād add this.
- Learn to work out of the high-end of your rage bar. The world will be a much better place. Youāll have to let Mocking Blow go to do it, but you find with the extra up-front threat, you wonāt miss it.
The simple fact is though that Arms Bois are so innured, so hopelessly dependent upon the system of crippling their agro with TM, that they will fight to protect it.
It gets better, also what can help is if you tell your group to wait a few seconds to let you get agro. And if you mark your target with skull, people will attack it first. Things may go smoother.
This is the difference though back in the day we didnāt need to be told we just ccād mobs. We knew which ones to cc and if the tank chose to break them so be it.
There are some un written rules that should be known. For example mana users can always be ccād. Sometimes melee can be immune. So always cc the mana bar. etc
Having to instruct the modern day baddies slows it down.
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everyone needs to pipe down no ones avatar is up to date unless they are 60 for the most part.
To the OP while I have steam rolled through dungeons so far it is usually because I go with a warrior and warlock buddy and I heal. Ii was starting to think that dungeons need to be harder.
I get the tanking thing too my warrior buddy is always talking about not having rage and taunts being resisted and the pug dps we bring attacking whatever they want but that being said I think we only wiped once in gnomeregan (mine range was bigger than the tank thought)
my advise to you is to get into a guild or find some people to do regular dungeons and you will notice a huge difference
Logging out and logging in fixes that.
LOLā¦ I stopped doing dungeons after SFK on my druid tank and just use him as my meat shield while leveling and do a one time dungeon run for the quests as kitty dpsā¦
People that try and tank have a S & M complexā¦
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everyone needs to pipe down no ones avatar is up to date unless they are 60 for the most part.
Logging out and logging in fixes that.[/quote]
Im lvl 32 I have no need to relog into the forums everyday, people should assume that the avatars level may not be accurate and not spend 10 posts flaming someone about it
Guys, hes not saying he canāt complete dungeonsā¦
Heās saying its not enjoyable to tank because everyone is used to retail(auto aggro) and aoe cleaving. As a Tank you feel as if you are failing your job if you donāt hold all the aggro, even one mob slipping away makes you feel like you arenāt fulfilling your role.
In addition, Iāve been in groups where spell cleavers waited til the end of the dungeon to start talking crap on a tank who couldent hold aggro on everything even though there were no wipes and it was obviously the hellfiring warlocks fault every time.
Heās not wrong at all in terms of Enjoyment, many are creating awful dungeon experiences unless you happen to be a mage/warlock
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i usually just dungeon with my friendsā¦ it solves that problem for most part.
As the other guy saidā¦ its not about holding agro on absolutely everythingā¦ and if thats your mindset youāll never be happy as a WoW tank and should go back to retail where you have to be really dim not to hold agro on everything.
In Classic, you need to hold agro on most stuff, most of the time, for the short time its in the process of dying. As long as people arenāt dying, and you did that, youāve done your job. Anything more is your prideā¦ fāing with you.
Iāve had the exact opposite experience. Sure, people are a bit gung-ho about trying to aoe things down immediately, but imo it just makes the dungeon experience more fast paced and interesting (assuming the healer can keep up).
If you are struggling that much to hold aggro then make sure you outlevel the dungeons a bit, it makes it 1000% easier.
But thenā¦ GL @ higher levels. If you canāt do it at low levels, it wonāt get any easier at higher levelsā¦ and in some ways itāll get harder. At that point, you should really decide if tanking instances is or is not for you.
A tanks job is more than holding aggro, itās leading the group and setting the tempo. Heās literally telling you how no matter what he said, no one would listen.
Fun is objective but itās also somewhat relative to your role. There are two mind sets in this game, people who have āfunā by hitting 60 as quickly as possible getting epic lewtz and quitting due to boredom and those that actually enjoy the game from level 1.
It would be like telling a sniper in an fps game that they arenāt allowed to headshot people because it isnāt as fast or effective than just body shotting people. You are sapping the enjoyment out of the defined role someone took on for a reason, all to acclimate to a temporary group dynamic that has developed to clear dungeons as quickly as possible.
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Not true. In raids you have multiple tanks, you utilize threat meters, and you single target most of the time. Stop telling people they should reroll because they arenāt happy adjusting to cleave spam which only works in dungeons with specific classes in classic.
Thereās nothing more annoying than a tank that rages about dps pulling aggro in dungeons. Itās not Naxx bro, shut up and press your taunt button. Any tanks with this attitude do us all a favor and reroll.
As the tank you can try setting a few expectations. I donāt know the specifics of your struggles but talking to the group before starting might help.
You can tell them you will be setting up āpriority burn targetsā.
You can try assigning CC targets.
Is it an AoE grinding group? If that is the case, you should NOT expect to hold aggro at all. Your job is to āinitiallyā grab the packs and get them close together and just do enough threat to keep them from the healer aggro, but the DPS going all in will for sure pull from you.
Communication and setting expectations is the KEY.