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Responses like this are all too common amd jaded. People arent on as much because its the calm before DF release, not even the high end guilds are running continuous mythics of raids theyve already completed.
Generations of kids wanting things NOW and instant gratification not being met, sounds horribly lazy and concieted. Peoppe take breaks before the next wave of content is released so just chill and relax
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All that would incentivize is something similar to snapchat. Youâll just see spam snaps every day to keep a âStreakâ going, but nothing of much meaning. You mistake the act itself as something that must be engaging.
Too many Asmongold wannabes and âsupportersâ.
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I meet decent players regularly. I donât group with them every day or even often. Its more like a whatever type of thing. If they want to run some we can run some. But I donât think I can run with the same group non stop every day. I donât like being dragged into content if I get bored of it either. I do different activities pretty regularly. A bigger friendâs list with a diverse group of players to pick from is more meaningful imo.
Regarding your issue, it might just be your server tbh.
Join the mplus community by working on your keys, and you will see that many people actively play this game.
guilds, however, are a total crapshoot.
I am not unemployed, but Iâve been playing for 16 years and am single with no children and I understand the game and I humbly call myself a good playerâŚ
If youâre in a guild with 800 people and no onâs on, thatâs a failed guild full of alts from a previous expansion or something. I didnât play bfa but when I came back and had no guild and I wanted to play with others, this is what I did.
To find a guild to play with people is really simple: follow these important step(s)
Step 1. Type in trade chat âLF active raiding/mythic+ guildâ
There ya go.
Edit: this is literally two weeks before the expansion, barely anyone is gonna be doing raiding or mythic plus.
Most people only play for a few weeks after new content is released then drop off until the next content release. People who raid seriously or do high level keystones or even just grind solo content like reputations or achievements are a minority.
Guilds are for lower heartstone cooldown. Which I dont have right now.
Iâll take your Khoshek and raise you a Paladina!
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I think you may be onto something.
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I really wish I had my IRL friends play WOW. It feels so lonely, yet it doesnât. But I canât get my friends into it due to the $ 15-month sub or how competitive I play.
We need all groups of people. Guilds fail if they donât have sweat lords at the helm farming and explaining and organizing. The social world dies if you donât have scrubs who donât even know where Naxx is. The rest of us (well, You, bc I play 8-12 hrs a day lol) are the middle class- quiet in raid, worried only about your own consumes, and logging off at midnight. Synergy
This is super important to remember and I think some people have trouble understanding it. It was something I had a hard time explaining to my mother (even though I was an adult at the time) âhey I need to be home by 9pm because Iâve got my raid tonightâ. The way I finally broke through to her was by explaining the whole reason I schedule my WoW group time is so that I know when I do not need to be online. Raid isnât until 9pm means yes I can go to that movie at 5p or yes I can go out for early dinner with someone or yes I can walk a couple miles at the park.
Granted, in my guild we have so many interested in M+ thereâs rarely a night goes by without some group coming together on Disc, but even that is kind of last minute planned and looks like:
âWho wants to run a key?â
âOh me! I need 10min to finish dishes!â
âNo worries, Soandso says theyâll be home from the grocery in 30min.â
âIâm just farming herbs. Whisper when weâre ready to goâ
âCount me in! Iâm just watching some TV. Ping Disc when to log in.â
And voila. They have a group planned for 30min in the future. Thatâs how responsible adults do things randomly. Itâs still all planning time.
This! Some people donât have fun in groups with extremely differing ability levels and I get that, but at the end of the day, itâs very rare to have groups of people who are 100% exactly evenly able in WoW. Sometimes youâll be the one doing a little more and sometimes youâll be the one doing a little less. Trying to set up a situation where youâre always the one doing the little less isnât going to fly.
This is why itâs so important to find the right guild. When youâre playing with friends, they donât treat you like crap for some one dumb mistake. When youâre in a guild with someone, itâs worth everyoneâs time to help each other out because everyone knows if they were the ones who needed help, someone would turn around and help them.
If you do nothing but play the PUG scene, itâs no wonder youâre having a bad experience. While possible to run into good people in PUGs (Iâve run into some serious amazing winners of people!!) the general attitude is everyone for themselves and no one helping anyone else.
(On the other hand, maybe people who are PUGing should stop and think about how they treat PUGs in return. A lousy community is not always just someone elseâs fault. A better community can always start with YOU.)
This is a good technical point too when guild searching. For various reasons, my original guildâs GM never removed any characters, even when people stopped playing. Over 14 years, that added up. We had a list of 1000 and maybe 50-80 would be active.
Lesson: Always ask about how many active players there are in the guild, or on per night.
No, thatâs not the case and Iâm really tired of people who keep saying this. You do not need to put in stupid ungodly hours to raid. If you want to be in a cutting edge world first guild, then maybe that might be close to it, but even they do not do that for long stretches at a time. However this is not the level of group weâre even talking about. There are plenty of guilds who raid 9 or fewer hours week. (In my guilds my AotC groups raid 5 hours a week and 6 hours a week respectively, and the mythic team raids 6 hours a week. And, being more specific, each of those groups is itâs own entity. Donât add 5+6+6 and say raiding takes 17 hours a week.) Consumables do not come anywhere near that much time to gather, craft, or just buy off the AH.
People need to stop with the overinflated time estimates for raiding. At least without defining exactly what level of raiding theyâre talking about.
Sylarsong, Iâm struggling to not quote your entire, very awesome, post. This. THIS. THIS. THIS. Especially the last. No one wants to be friends with someone who isnât being friends back. No one wants to try to do something with someone who doesnât want to contribute to the activity. My grandfather was dead on saying the best friendships are when both sides contribute 80%. The same goes for people you know in WoW.
This is something I failed to point out in my other post. When youâre looking for a guild, do not limit yourself to just your own server. Finding the right group is worth paying for a character transfer!! (Remember character transfers can be paid with gold!) If you have to save up the money or gold to do it, you can play with your new guild in the meantime via cross realm grouping.
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I like collecting and battling pets
This whole post is great advice, but this in particular is what I logged in to comment on. Our guild struggled for a long time to find good âcasualâ players for M+ and normal/heroic raiding. We finally have a good consistent group, but every new person we invite, weâre terrified will put-off one of our other new recruits that we already know is a great fit.
And as others have pointed out, a lot of people are inactive before DF. Once our guild got heroic raid achievements and KSM for as many guildies as we could in S4, a lot of us have scaled way back until thereâs new content.
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Sounds like what classic is like or was we all just play with one or two people Iâve done that for like 11+years.unless i que for something on my own. Most of this game is random people who have their circles and the rest have their own thing . This isnât classic and most real long time folks donât want to be around the people you described .itâs why you hear so much about solo players there is a larger and larger group every year and if you play long enough you will find out why.
Try a community⌠or two⌠or three. Join as many as you like. It kind of feels a lot like active, cross server guilds.
I feel like the people youâre looking for are casual pvpers! Raiders tend to be a little intense for me, but there are elitist pvpers as well.
idk doesnât bother me. got a friend played with him since cata. since i think Legion he has stated âI play WoWâ yet he doesnât have anything really done. never see him logged in despite he is always on discord/bnet claims he is always hiding from his other friends who want him to play LoL or w.e.
i always tell him âBSâ lol he plays here and there like once in a blue moon kinda thing. plays more classic rn then retail but in the end itâs always the same thing. plays during launch week and maybe 2-3 weeks in quits. claims school/work/other friends. itâs w.e. though i just like to tease him about it. skill wise he is pretty good but yea wish he played more often.
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