I don't want to forgive, I don't want to forget

Uh… yes we do. We see it all the time. Where have you been?

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Let’s see, I’m upset with a person. What is the healthiest thing to do to distance myself or stay with that person while I contain my anger?

I think keeping distance is the best for both of us.

I already assumed that they are not going to give me revenge, I am the Alliance, I am here to be the punching bag of the Horde and the writers.

I just want to skip the 3:00 p.m. beating

THIS is what you’re holding up as the equivalent of Teldrassil?

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lol at the idea that the battle of dazar’alor was in any way shape or form comparable to even 1% of the pain and suffering that Sylvanas has caused

Like holy moly talk about desperate

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Hmm…

You are almost using Zul’jins and the Amanis word’s right in the title.

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That would’ve been a better story than what we have, arguably.

I might be just jaded people after the treatment they get with the story arc. Forgiving Sylvanas leads to the situation where Arthas and Silvermoon are no longer that big of a deal. After all, without that, there would be no need for M’uru’s core. And without it they would not be who they are now, etc.

One of those narrative decisions that the devs were so focused upon that they did not bother thinking about the consequences of what that means for the lore.


gl hf

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The only evidence for that nonsense has come from Night Elf Persecution Squad in this subforum.

The cinematic was a leadup to the incoming raid where you take the battle to Sylvannas herself. It would not have made dramatic sense to have her defeated before you get to the raid itself!

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The premise of this topic is that forgiveness is even required. A mistaken notion. Sylvanas did Azeroth a favor by removing that hideous weed. A total monument to Night Elven vanity and arrogance. A blight on the land.

I eagerly await the unfolding of the Dark Lady’s tale. How will she save her consort Anduin? What future glories will she lead us too?

For the Dark Lady!
For the True Horde!!!

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Their capture wasn’t random and it was definitely justified. I guess you forgot about how we fought the Zandalari in MoP? That group of Zandalari was led by the Prophet Zul. The Alliance probably assumed that he was acting with Rastakhan’s approval.

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He was, because Rastakhan was a bad king who let Zul do whatever he wanted.

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Please save us from the narrative black holes that are Anduin and Jaina.

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I’d say the standard should be on how much control anyone actually had. Arthas, was manipulated by both Ner’zhul and the Dreadlords to end up taking the blade. Bolvar clearly had to deal with Zovaal all this time.

And now we have Sylvanas. A person who literally just admitted she served no one and all her actions were of her own accord. A person who kept totting her “free will”. Seems to me like she should suffer fully for her choices.

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Yeah they’re basically the same damned guy. If it works for one, it works for the other.

I agree in principle and spirit with the op’s suggestion. I should not be forced by the game to feel bad for destroying the capital city of a faction that has been my sworn enemy since the beginning of the game. I should be aloud to celebrate it.
:beer:

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Don’t forget destroying entire worlds doesn’t seem to be a big deal. General Draven destroyed at least 4 worlds. No idea how it exactly works with Stornebron, but well.

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Ironically, there’s a Jailer quote in that cinematic which sums up our feelings on the subject. “Too long have I endured the makers’ flawed design.”

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Not only that, it seems his idea of a new reality is also flawed (if everyone has to serve, or whatever) it’s not well defined.

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Yeah sorry but not. Lets not pretend that this is the reason why people accept one redemption and not the other. Before we knew what kind of redemption Sylvanas was going to have, people were already hating on every possibility existing including the ‘’ Sylvanas was controlled’’ one. Let be fair, the people that are hating on it now would still be hating on it even if we learned that Sylvanas was mind controlled all along.

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QQing about Dazar’alor will never not be the funniest sh#t to me.

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No, this is 100% wrong. The cinematic is not the lead-up, the cinematic is the END of the raid. It’s what happens after you beat Sylvanas and the raid comes to a complete end. Where did you get such a wrong interpretation?

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