I don't understand how multiboxing is different that botting

[Beltira-grobbulus]

You don’t just get to invent new definitions to win your argument.

Multi-boxing implies multiple accounts, you can’t multi-box with just one account.

Your pedantic definition doesn’t change that common usage is interchangeable.

[Misadventure-herod]

I would laugh my butt off if blizzard decided that while they will continue to allow multiboxing, that they will now disallow keycloning and disabled the ability to /follow in instances.

[Esimpure-whitemane]

I’m not sure why they would, but given how bad they are at banning bots I don’t think it’d change much.

[Níhilian-pagle]

@Orf-benediction

You need software to send keypresses to other WoW windows

no you don’t

[Gnop-atiesh]

They did disable /follow in PvP instances on retail, but that was to disable simple honor bots. One thing they’ve made clear is that mutiboxing is allowed, but not supported. They don’t take it into consideration when making changes.

[Willygodx-whitemane]

No they’re just setting up the inputs so that the 1 key press does teh same thing in multiple windows.

Which is why they get so mad if you kill half of them. they need to be synced up or it doesn’t work.

1 button press = 1 action per client

That’s the rule

Not 1 button press = 1 action in a single client

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Willygodx-whitemane

1 button press = 1 action per client

That’s the rule

Not 1 button press = 1 action in all the clients you have available

Incorrect. Blizzard doesn’t actively support it, but does not ban people for using multiboxing software. So long as a player has to press the button, they’re fine with it.

[Willygodx-whitemane]

You need to read that carefully. What you’re saying doesn’t conflict with what i said

1 action PER CLIENT

This whole thign is a word game…You have to read carefully

[Esimpure-whitemane]

Yeah, I’m not sure what you mean. It sounds like you’re saying the same thing in two different ways.

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

What don’t you understand?

[Orf-benediction]

@Esimpure-whitemane

@Orf-benediction

You need software to send keypresses to other WoW windows, it isn’t as easy as having 1 keyboard controlling two windows you need to setup a program to read what you are doing and send that command to every other WoW window. The fact that a program is sending commands to every other window means a program is playing that character

Nope. It’s mirroring your key presses. Without the player, the program does nothing. That’s why it’s allowed.

That mirroring is a program sending key presses to the other WoW windows

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Orf-benediction

@Esimpure-whitemane

@Orf-benediction

You need software to send keypresses to other WoW windows, it isn’t as easy as having 1 keyboard controlling two windows you need to setup a program to read what you are doing and send that command to every other WoW window. The fact that a program is sending commands to every other window means a program is playing that character

Nope. It’s mirroring your key presses. Without the player, the program does nothing. That’s why it’s allowed.

That mirr oring is a program sending key presses to the other WoW windows

Yep just like how the WoW client is a program sending key presses to Blizzard.

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Orf-benediction

That mirroring is a program sending key presses to the other WoW windows

Correct, a program Blizzard does not consider cheating. Like Discord in game overlay, or Warcraft logs.

[Casimer-area-52]

I think the real question is, not whether they are the same thing, but whether they have the same negative effects on the game.

I would argue that BOTTING and multiboxing, regardless if they are considered “different” by an arbitrary standard, have the same negative effects on the game. Therefore, both should not be allowed.

It’s like saying… well, he didn’t murder that person. He just assaulted him, nearly to death. It’s not the same!

Great, it’s not the same. Both are still terrible outcomes that should be prevented if possible. Multiboxing is an excellent source of revenue though. I know people that began to multibox after getting tired of losing quest spots to multibox.

It’s kind of like how Call of Duty intentionally matches you up with players that have the guns you don’t have (DLC weapons). You get killed by that player, view the killcam, and see him using the DLC weapon. You feel pressured to use said DLC weapon, just to enjoy yourself.

Multiply this by 5, and you have multiboxing. People like to act like it isn’t prevalent, but there was points in Thousand Needles I could not do any of the quests I had left, because a multiboxer was being intentionally obnoxious.

[Orf-benediction]

@Ziryus-doomhammer

@Orf-benediction

@Esimpure-whitemane

@Orf-benediction

You need software to send keypresses to other WoW windows, it isn’t as easy as having 1 keyboard controlling two windows you need to setup a program to read what you are doing and send that command to every other WoW window. The fact that a program is sending commands to every other window means a program is playing that character

Nope. It’s mirroring your key presses. Without the player, the program does nothing. That’s why it’s allowed.

That mirr oring is a program sending key presses to the other WoW windows

Yep just like how the WoW client is a program sending key presses to Blizzard.

People are nowing shifting from making the process so simple to now “hey look, your gaming keyboard goes through software so that must be the same thing”…it isn’t

You are controlling one character at one time, software then controls every other character (mirroring which is exactly the same thing). Software is controlling your WoW characters, not you, and as such in the TOS multiboxing (through software) should be illegal

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Casimer-area-52

I would argue that BOTTING and multiboxing, regardless if they are considered “different” by an arbitrary standard, have the same negative effects on the game. Therefore, both should not be allowed.

In what way does multiboxing have a negative effect on the game?

[Casimer-area-52]

I shouldn’t need to spell this out for you, buddy… in fact, I’m not going to.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Orf-benediction

People are nowing shifting from making the process so simple to now “hey look, your gaming keyboard goes through software so that must be the same thing”…it isn’t

Hey you are the one who seems incapable of distinguising one type of program from another.

But i’ll make it simple, multiboxing is replicating keystrokes, botting is generating keystrokes.

[Willygodx-whitemane]

You’re not sure of a lot of things you don’t understand that

1 action PER CLIENT (or window if you prefer that)

So if i have 16 accts and 16 clients…I can still move them all forward with w because it’s 1 action per client

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Orf-benediction

People are nowing shifting from making the process so simple to now “hey look, your gaming keyboard goes through software so that must be the same thing”…it isn’t

You are controlling one character at one time, software then controls every other character (mirroring which is exactly the same thing). Software is controlling your WoW characters, not you, and as such in the TOS multiboxing (through software) should be illegal

There is no automation. They mirror the key presses you make on one keyboard. It’s not impossible to multibox without software, it’s just easier to have it. The program does not control the other accounts, they merely let you control them with one button press. They perform the exact same actions which is how it’s possible. Mirroring is in no way controlling it.

Blizzard has made a statement that multiboxing is not against the TOS.