hopefully i dont get shanked by another inmate who then carves a smile in their own face…
oops spoilers.
terrible movie.
I haven’t seen the sequel but I heard it was a huge flop
A little overpowered is the understatement of the century lol I swapped my resto druid to boomkin with almost no DPS gear bc I heard all the outcries of them being too OP…I was trucking people in bgs lmfao
Where did you go Throwinhands???
We need answers.
I said it before elsewhere and ill say it again here:
99.9999999% of people crying for nerfs to this and that and the other dont care if something is OP. They dont even care if you can prove it isnt.
They want what they perceive to be OP to be theirs. They want to be able to sweep aside dozens of other players with ease and then laugh at and mock and gloat over them without fear of reprisal. Theyre not mad something is OP. Theyre mad they arent.
The easiest way to tell the difference between the above peoples’ emotional babbling and a legitimate complaint is the presentation of it.
If its presented with the cohesion and rationality of your spouse accusing you of cheating because they dreamed it… well, you know what that means.
Heres a perfect example:
“WAHH BUBBLE PLATE N HEALS NERF NERF NERF 6K EXO 6K SHOCK 35K HAMMER NERF NERF NERF”
Vs… oh, idk
Cutthroat is a bad idea, removing the positional requirement of an ability that has its damage balanced around the requirement of meeting said positional requirement is a disaster looking for a place to happen.
Ask yourself which one you see more here and youll understand why Blizzard out and out ignores these forums.
You are probably right but since my post I have only seen several people criticize my phrasing of “a little overpowered” but not address my rune swap suggestion at all, which I think is a fair suggestion for balancing, except for aggrendminus and even he is still wrong on his first point. Several classes have things they can do when focus targeted. Pallies can bubble, priests can dispersion, bubble and aoe fear, wars can shield wall, hunters can FD and cancel target and any active spell casts targeting them, warlocks can healthstone + pot and drain life, rogues can vanish sprint. Boomy gets focused boomy is dead. They cant do crap about it. So focus the boomies in mass pvp its not that hard, it will melt in half a second.
Its like looking at replies on twitter posts just a bunch of mindless outrage replies. My concern with the outrage and cries for nerfs or “balancing overtuned classes” is that blizzard has a VERY clear and blatant historical precedence of OVER tuning and OVER nerfing classes that everybody cries about on the forums and essentially ends up nerfing them into the ground. For instance, shamans should not be having the dmg output they have while also providing all the utility they provide with chain heals, totems and purges while simultaneously calling for boomy nerfs who provide basically zero utility and are just damage turrets are arguing in bad faith. Horde still wins most pug BGs (although I think currently this is the closest its been to 50/50 win/loss in a while and actually decently balanced) despite alliance having heavy ret and boomy numbers, and if horde thinks its just because they are all more skilled than alliance they are delusional and intentionally malicious wanting to go back to 95% win rate BGs and just steamroll every alliance pug like its historically been on classic wow iterations.
I think my rune swap idea is the only genuine suggestion anybody has presented on the forums so far that could go a long way to balancing boomy that isnt just “OMG boomy so OP pls nerf now” providing no suggestion for doing so and I think its just people playing other classes that just want boomy nerfed into irrelevance and turned into a free kill in PVP. WoW classic has always been a rock paper scissors type of PVP when it comes to class balance and people expecting or wanting a perfect balanced based off 1v1 type scenarios are delusional and the same people that ruined WoW pvp turning all classes into homogenous hybrids of eachother that can dps heal and provide utility and is what got us to retail. They should go back to retail and leave our classic alone.
exactly and 100% agree
Orrrr they just wanna play the game and not get globaled out of existence while in a bg where everyone has like 2k extra health. Idk man there’s like 4 specs/classes in the game that absolutely need changes.
Yeah idk where they come up with these crazy takes. Like if you wanna do well on warrior you need, full bis gear and a specific weapon (bre) and you also need to have atleast 2 stacks from that weapon to really get your max damage potential, and then you still need another class to support you with healing.
If you don’t do all of that you’re a little bit better than where mage is at, and they think that’s fine, but have a mental breakdown when being told ele sham, boomie, and hunter all hit way too hard for the amount of utility they have, while specifically boomie and hunter barely need any gear investment to double or triple some classes damage.
I really appreciate critting a hunter for 600 damage while I have a 300 str proc so that he can crit me back for 1300 while wearing a bunch of leveling gear.
Be honest with yourself. Which description fits the majority of this forum better. Dont answer me. Dont even type it. Answer yourself.
outside of ret pally please tell us which class is globalling people inside BGs
Bro no lie I had an arcane mage slap me with a 4k Arcane Surge followed by a 2.9k Arcane Barrage. It’s not a global since I have 10k hp in BG’s but that’s still pretty insane damage with the DR’s.
I vote they remove the DR’s and the HP buffs and we can just let god sort it out.
If you want me to be completely honest they failed at SoD pvp completely. This is what happens when you tune around PvE first. I’m done ranking for the rest of SoD so now I don’t have to deal with whatever other awful changes they cook up.
Paladins are OBJECTIVELY overpowered right now because bubble has no counter. This is not a personal option, this is a fact.
Nerf pallies.
/thread
How about this then –
don’t nerf anyone, but buff everyone else up to top performer’s levels.
Then it would still be fair, and everyone will have their shot to nuke and 1-deag the OP Andy’s.
I bet they’d cry though if that started happening claiming they were nerfed by proxy.
TLDR
BUFF MAGE PvP
The ONLY change that needs made to DShield/DProt is an offensive-only pacify that applies to attacks and offensive spells. Heals need to remain unaffected otherwise the button cant justify a spot on the hotbar.
No long (>2m)defensive CDs should be able to be used offensively without a window of opportunity to punish it wide enough to fly a Blackstone Fortress through. None. that includes Rogue “defensives” too.
Anything other than that singular change is simple vindictiveness and a desire to punish players for your own satisfaction.
Boomies, ranged hunters, ele shamans. Yeah I play a pally and they should get nerfed😂 I never said otherwise
Here is the issue with trap launcher. Most poeple are BUMs. I cannot tell you how many times I watch a hunter miss their trap… And then watch people WALK RIGHT INTO IT!. Trap launcher has a 35 yard range and travel time. it also gets affected by heartbeat sensor. I shoot traps at people perfectly and watch them walk out of them like 35% of the time because of how heart beat works.
If you pay attention and wait for the trap it is pretty easy to avoid it. Good hunters will try to slow you before they trap you. You also have to be in range of other ranged classes to land a trap. Idk where people get this idea that trap launcher is a 41 yard range and I can trap you without you ever being able to put a dot on me. It’s 35 yards…
Also freezing trap and scatter dr. So its not like you can get spam trapped for all eternity. Yeah you can get outplayed with traps and that is why hunter is fun atm. But it can also be dispelled and breaks on damage. People just have no ability to pay attention to things. You get trapped and the priest on your team is too busy spamming void plagues to dispel you from 2 inches away.
What really makes hunter strong is their crit coefficient. If a hunter triple crits you and is geared you prolly die. But when a hunter doesn’t crit they tickle you… If they get time to trap you and double aimd shot you out of the trap esp if they have t2 2 set and they both crit welp you died. But you need to land a trap and then stand still until 4 stacks cast your first aimd shot and then insta cast your second one. I will non crit a chimera for like 500-600 sometimes even less. But when I crit it can go from like 1400-2100 its a HUGE difference.
I get a double chimera crit can be strong…but to get max effect out of it. You need to get in range to land a trap. Land it. Then you gotta get a serp sting up. Then you can dub chimera. And only if they crit does it even matter. So it means getting within range to take damage from other players. You also prolly need to conc first to be able to land the trap, followed by another 2 globals before you can use it. And then its OPness is completely reliant on whether you crit or not. Cause if you get double chimerad for 600 each and then a 250 serp proc x2 thats still only 1700 damage and it took 5 globals to do that… Not as OP as everyone makes it seem…
But I get it as far as everyone who is not a hunter is concerned, hunters ALWAYS CRIT and have never NOT crit a single time in their existence. But that just aint the case.
Putting a massive zone on the ground that slows people by 60% when most slows are 50% isn’t an outplay, the fact it can root multiple times due to pure rng also isn’t skill. The fact you miss traps at all says all I need to know about your skill level.
You’re delusional.
This is what I have been saying since day 1. But then BUMs CRY that DAMAGE IS TOO MUCH WAAAAAAAAAA.
It makes no sense to say YEAH WE GOTTA NERF x, y, and z. When you have abysmal classes that will still be garbage even if you nerf the other classes that are actually fun to play.
Mage - Beyond useless - can heal, goes OOM in 5 seconds then dies. Worst class in the game by far. Mage was doing ok before they decided WE GOTTA MAKE CASTERS DO 40% LESS DAM LOLOLOLOL. Now I watch a mage insta pyro me for 5% of my hp… LOOKS FUN!
Enh - OBLITERATED because of all the BUMs crying about ele shams. Enh has 0 healing and healing was always enh main mitigation ability. They also do NO damage thei high damage output is waht compensates for their lack of tankiness but they do z dam. They still have to struggle to get to targets and without wolfs they wont make it 90% of the time. And they finally get to their target to do 0 dam.
Destro - Chaos bolt does less damage then it did at level 25… WTF is shadowfury? How has one of the most fun classes in the game fallen so far? No dam output no survivability. Utter tragedy.
Feral - I honestly think feral would be fine if it just had a snare and didn’t go oom from shapeshifting. It lacks the fluidity it got in wotlk and still feels clunky. They need infected wound and like a 70-80% mana reduction of shapeshifting.
Warriors - yall can go to hell
Frost trap cant even be launched lmao. Did you even read what I said the trap misses because of heartbeat. You can have a trap on the ground and people can walk right over it without it triggering because that is just the way the game works.
Like it is amazing you lose to frost trap. Because your charge dead zone is 8yard and the hunter deadzone is 8 yards SO if a hunter wants to run away and shoot you WHILE your in the frost trap EVEN IF YOU GET ROOTED. as soon as the hunter is in range to shoot you YOU CAN CHARGE THEM! OUT OF THE ROOT AND OUT OF THE SNARE LMAO.
You wanna talk about skill? All you do is CRY about how bad warrior is when all you do is over extend and die because you have no idea what your doing. You think you would win on era? Did you cry on era when you got perma rooted by frost trap as well? Or when a hunter was out of your charge range and kited you until you died?
YOU’RE the one who is delusional and a BUM.