'I Don't have time to level' argument

I have always found really fun the process of farming gold, but seeing the weapons going for 200k in nax gdkp can be really disheartening and takes the fun out of my time farming 70g an hour in DM.

Even though I’m earning gold when an option exists to skip all that effort and just have it instantly by paying real life money it takes my enjoyment out of farming it.

I pretty much assume the same will happen with the boost.

If I decide to level a new character, a process which I enjoy and do not like to rush but I know there is an option to skip it with real life money, it will take away the value out of the effort I spend in leveling.

The value and effort you put into your character is really meaningful in an MMO, this genre is a lot about vanity and being the one with the rare mount that everyone’s jealous of or rare equipment that everyone is inspecting you to see, being able to outplay another player and feeling that you are better than them.

MMORPGs are a lot about vanity.

But when your efforts can be skipped with the swipe of a credit card all the things that you gain will mean little.

In [Patch 2.3.0](Blizzard re-evaluated the Dustwallow Marsh zone to help the leveling process for levels 20-60. A new [goblin] town called [Mudsprocket]and new quests for both Theramore and Brackenwall Village were added.

Yes. And it didn’t require TBC to experience those additional quests. 99.9% certain on it.

They were added during a TBC patch… but didn’t require TBC to play because they were changes to the base game… not the burning crusade.

Private servers existed because you had to move on from Vanilla.

Once the tbc pre patch drops, the base game is changed. You don’t get a choice.

Yes. But the base game is still not the expansion.

And while I agree, I want to see this same outrage towards the other issues. But everybody is focusing on the 58 boost as opposed to demanding blizzard fix the issues that currently exist with gold buying/selling/boosting.

This is why I’m indifferent to the 58 boost.

How is leveling irrelevant content? It’s world of Warcraft not world of outland.

Got you a pair of clown shoes, size 14.

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I believe everyone is focusing on boosts(including myself) because it’s something that has yet to be implemented and there is still a 0.0001% chance that the decision can be changed. When and if it gets implemented in the game it will be too late to change it back

Other issues like botting have never been address by blizzard in 15 years so people got tired of asking for solutions.

While not a fan of “hur dur you on retail char” comments, I must add that the retail community tried to stop Classic from becoming a thing.

You understand how much of a false generalization that is right? There are tons of people playing classic that were playing or still play retail. They tried to stop classic? No.

Don’t try to generalize the million(s) of people that play retail because there was some who made fun of classic and the people that wanted to play classic.

Maybe I should specify.
It was the retail community on the forums that did so.

Or maybe you do not recall the endless number of threads shot down, mocked, reported to hell, spammed with the wall of no endlessly and so forth for years. Even to such a point that Blizzard employees laughed when asked about it hence the “you think you do but you don’t”.

And then after Classic forums came up it was the same general forum community that came over and trolled asking for every freaking change under the sun to troll and pollute the classic forums.

OF COURSE not all retail players, heck I play retail a little bit here and there and post on one too but trying to show some light on how they support wow? Just not a fan. And like said, I agreed with you that saying “hur dur you posting on a retail char!” is just dumb.

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Except you continue to use incorrect math and terminology (such as diminishing returns for a a system that has large scaleability) to prove a non existent point that bots will significantly be worse with boosting.

The fact is boosting is less efficient per dollar than just leveling more characters.

Also - in retrospect your diminishing return argument actually proved boosts will have no marginal impact.

If botters are going to max out the number of characters they can support regardless of boost - the number of bots in Outland won’t be impacted directly by boosts at all.

Yep, the same type of people who took a dump all over classic back then are the same people taking a dump over boosting, collectors edition, etc. They will continue to accomplish and mean nothing.

PS: your diminishing returns argument is terrible. It was 3 am when we were arguing so I didn’t notice the obvious but…

Diminishing returns , also called law of diminishing returns or principle of diminishing marginal productivity , economic law stating that if one input in the production of a commodity is increased while all other inputs are held fixed, a point will eventually be reached at which additions of the input yield progressively smaller, or diminishing, increases in output.

If you reach that point… and then substantially increase the costs of production - your entire point goes out the window (I do think I mentioned that last night, which you ignored). No sane economists will predict that your profits will go up by increasing the initial cost of production substantially. Which is what you are asserting.

Which is why I said that isn’t diminishing returns issue, but a capital restriction one.

Surely someone who works in economics should know that?

LOL, still on the same topic? salty much?

I’m happy you took the time to google search diminishing returns, at least you are starting to think before you post.

Still wrong though.

while holding everything else constant is a paramount rule of economics and statistics, which you violated.

So no, not wrong.
You can’t just rewrite 100 years of economic study just because you don’t agree with it.

Sorry being wrong upsets you.
But nice try.

PS: Diminishing returns is a consumption problem at its most basic level. That’s why it requires you to hold all other variables constant.

Fairly confident you’re lying about work. Someone who actually studies / works in economics would know that.

There will be enough GDKP runs happening you will be able to live the warglaive dream if you have enough gold!

To be fair, most economists dont know anything about economics leading to things like 2009.

So… my post was flagged lol.
The state of this forum is actually sad.

Edit: and now its restored after review.
No surprise there, but nice try.

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Weird, you didn’t say anything rule breaking.

Completely wrong economically? Sure.
But that’s not reportable lol.

People on these forums shrug.
Barrens chat all over again.